mtutiger Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: I wanted to hear why the guy in the upper right corner decided to vote for Trump based on what he saw. Didn't see in real time, but reportedly said she wasn't ready / didn't have the experience to be POTUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Didn't see in real time, but reportedly said she wasn't ready / didn't have the experience to be POTUS Real Reason: I'm intimidated by strong, intelligent women who don't know their place. Macho ****head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 38 minutes ago, romad1 said: I watched most of the speeches last night which meant I was starting to glaze over at all the soaring and swooping rhetoric. I think Big Gretch was good but not awesome. She did her job. The best of those not doing something overtly emotive like the gun violence survivors/advocates (inc. Giffords) was Adam Kinzinger. He nailed his job. Mark Kelly you could tell was not on the ticket for a reason after that speech. Kamela came on stage at that place when I was so tired that i had started blacking out. She seemed excellent. I forced myself to watch to the end. If she missed a note, I don't recall it. I thought Big Gretch came on too campy and jokey. She needed to dial that down by 30% or 40%. It was a little hard for me to take her seriously at first. A sly joke here and there, that’s great; doing an actual bit with big facial and hand gestures is out of place for someone of her presumed stature. Although she is quite dishy, so I forgive her. We all have seen plenty of Adam Kinzinger on various non-red hat media so we’re used to him, but the relatively tepid response by the crowd to him at first made me wonder whether many of the delegates even knew who he was. Like, who’s this square-headed guy and are we still in the right place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 11 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: I don't understand how people think he's tough. He’s middle-school-bully tough, which is when most of these red hats stopped paying any attention in school, so maybe all their pecking order expectations are frozen in place based on that experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, chasfh said: I thought Big Gretch came on too campy and jokey. She needed to dial that down by 30% or 40%. It was a little hard for me to take her seriously at first. A sly joke here and there, that’s great; doing an actual bit with big facial and hand gestures is out of place for someone of her presumed stature. Although she is quite dishy, so I forgive her. We all have seen plenty of Adam Kinzinger on various non-red hat media so we’re used to him, but the relatively tepid response by the crowd to him at first made me wonder whether many of the delegates even knew who he was. Like, who’s this square-headed guy and are we still in the right place? Yeah, he had to earn that crowd and i think he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 9 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Given how the entire premise of RFK's candidacy was to take a big giant **** on the Democratic Party, it shouldn't be mystifying why they didn't give him much respect or listen to his pitch lol Those reasons in the tweet should be 2) and 3). Reason 1) should have been “he’s ****ing nuts.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: I thought Big Gretch came on too campy and jokey. She needed to dial that down by 30% or 40%. It was a little hard for me to take her seriously at first. A sly joke here and there, that’s great; doing an actual bit with big facial and hand gestures is out of place for someone of her presumed stature. Although she is quite dishy, so I forgive her. We all have seen plenty of Adam Kinzinger on various non-red hat media so we’re used to him, but the relatively tepid response by the crowd to him at first made me wonder whether many of the delegates even knew who he was. Like, who’s this square-headed guy and are we still in the right place? Kinzinger, along with Geoff Duncan, John Giles, Stephanie Grisham on previous nights, were more for people outside the hall versus inside the hall. He's not the most dynamic speaker in the world, but the content of his speech was pretty potent IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 10 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Didn't see in real time, but reportedly said she wasn't ready / didn't have the experience to be POTUS Joe Biden has the experience to be POTUS. Maybe the guy can write Joe in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 11 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Given how the entire premise of RFK's candidacy was to take a big giant **** on the Democratic Party, it shouldn't be mystifying why they didn't give him much respect or listen to his pitch lol Yeah, it was always a vessel for the crazier people on the left and sane people know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Just now, romad1 said: Yeah, it was always a vessel for the crazier people on the left and sane people know that. For sure.... not on Weigel but rather that NY Post reporter, the content is just so disingenuous. And for reasons that are no-doubt motivated, inflates RFK's importance at this juncture or the leverage that he would have with a D Party that he went out of his way to **** on the entire election up to this point. Not to mention the incompatibility of many of RFK's nutty beliefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RatkoVarda Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 so, its illegal in the US to offer a cabinet position to someone in exchange for political support. don't know if that has ever been used; don't know if that laws stands up with the Roberts Court bozos; but I'd bet you could easily get Trump to admit what they offered RFK to drop out. Reporter: Sir, you make great deals. The best deals. Was it hard - probably not for you, it was probably easy - was it hard to get RFK to drop out? You build great organizations, great teams, great companies because no one knows talent more than you. Who decided where Bobby works best? Was it you or someone else? And what is that cabinet position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smr-nj Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said: Oh, Peggy…. time to put her out to pasture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Besides, the current GOP wasn't using it. Who knew that believing in democracy and freedom was the sole property of one political party 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 I literally forgot she existed. She's perfect for the NY Times... a relic from a bygone era. She can take Maureen Dowd with her. Those people are analyzing a game that no longer exists. They are the Bob Costas of political punditry. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Just now, oblong said: the label "replicant" seems about right. I expect him to show up at Mr Thiel's estate after hours to play chess soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 56 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: To the latter part of her point - Kamala is able to get away with it in part because even though Biden has served as President for the last 3.5 years, this era (from Summer 2015 to now) has been singularly defined by one individual - Donald J. Trump. Like, when historians look back at this era (hopefully ending this year), he's going to be the one person we all remember (not Biden or HRC or Bernie Sanders or whoever). So of course she's the change candidate.... for people who want this era to end (and there are a lot of them - Trump is still not a popular figure), she's the person left in the race who can make that happen. Certainly in a way Biden never could. It's so obvious, yet these commentators who act confused that a sitting VP can make a "change" argument always seem to want to avoid it. Edited August 23 by mtutiger 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 23 minutes ago, mtutiger said: To the latter part of her point - Kamala is able to get away with it in part because even though Biden has served as President for the last 3.5 years, this era (from Summer 2015 to now) has been singularly defined by one individual - Donald J. Trump. Like, when historians look back at this era (hopefully ending this year), he's going to be the one person we all remember (not Biden or HRC or Bernie Sanders or whoever). So of course she's the change candidate.... for people who want this era to end (and there are a lot of them - Trump is still not a popular figure), she's the person left in the race who can make that happen. Certainly in a way Biden never could. It's so obvious, yet these commentators who act confused that a sitting VP can make a "change" argument always seem to want to avoid it. Peggy knows in her heart that her personal version of Christianity is 1000 times closer to Kamela's fusion of faiths from her Jamaican father, Indian mother and Jewish husband than Donald Trump's gemeinshchaft durch freunde fascism. That she can't choke that out in her columns is because she has yet to suffer any penalty for her delusion. Edited August 23 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Just a little reminder that D Trump is the oldest candidate currently running for President. And he claims to be the healthiest ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 She beat him in ratings Kamala Harris Beats Trump in Acceptance Speech Ratings (mediaite.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 More compelling than J.D. Vance at a donut shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Besides, the current GOP wasn't using it. Who knew that believing in democracy and freedom was the sole property of one political party Exactly. They're clearly and loudly the Party Of Hate now and the Party who wants to buddy up to Putin and Kim. Go ahead and call her a Commie, but she'll never say she "fell in love" with either one of those tyrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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