gehringer_2 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) 35 minutes ago, oblong said: I always learned that good organizations fire people who tell the bosses what they don't want to hear, whether it's valid or not. LOL - there is no more dangerous ground to be on in a US corporation after a project goes south than to have been right about something your bosses turned out to be wrong about..... If they all get fired, you probably get caught in the backwash too, if they don't, you will likely become the unforgiven and shown the door at the survivors' earliest convenience. Your best shot is attempt a lateral move into a different group ASAP! Edited September 3 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 "you are not being a team player" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 Pretty great yard sign in the neighborhood today. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, oblong said: "you are not being a team player" "if you're one of us, you'll take a bite" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Now for his sister 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 12 minutes ago, romad1 said: Now for his sister How come a First Lieutenant is pictured with sergeant stripes? Is that normal in some way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 51 minutes ago, chasfh said: How come a First Lieutenant is pictured with sergeant stripes? Is that normal in some way? File photo? Story said he’d been serving 17 yrs but was just commissioned in ‘22 when he went to intel, so he was apparently a long time NCO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Now for his sister Everyone has the red line I guess. Interesting that inciting a riot to attempt to overturn an election didn’t do it but this did. Different folks I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 minutes ago, ben9753 said: Everyone has the red line I guess. Interesting that inciting a riot to attempt to overturn an election didn’t do it but this did. Different folks I guess. Maybe he’s learned things since he went to intel that cause him to judge the stakes as higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 19 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Maybe he’s learned things since he went to intel that cause him to judge the stakes as higher. I'm guessing the First Lieutenant voted for Biden in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I'm guessing the First Lieutenant voted for Biden in 2020. He enlisted as a grunt. Didn't want to go to college/ROTC or otherwise follow the family legacy to Annapolis. Or maybe he was just a screw-up in HS and didn't have the choice. 🤷♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, chasfh said: How come a First Lieutenant is pictured with sergeant stripes? Is that normal in some way? so the pic on twitter does appear on CNNs website of the story, nor does it carry a clarifying caption like "James McCain in 20XX at such a place" (where-ever or whenever he was speaking in the pic. Just another example of how sloppy CNN is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 5 hours ago, pfife said: Pretty great yard sign in the neighborhood today. I saw a few of those a couple weeks ago when I visited my brother in Chicagoland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claims-hell-declassify-jfk-173616197.html You're pretty clever there Trump, you had me for a second. "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oblong Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 12 hours ago, ewsieg said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claims-hell-declassify-jfk-173616197.html You're pretty clever there Trump, you had me for a second. "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again." Frankly I don't think there's anything in the files that is interesting or revealing as it relates to what happened. I think they are still classified because some people referenced are still alive, or people close to a person, are still alive. Or they could just be salacious or gossipy. There's no smoking gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 #kamalakrash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewsieg Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Nothing like getting a boost from an unforced error. This abortion flip flopping is probably worse then just taking an unfavorable position as it keeps the abortion issue front and center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oblong Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 25 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Nothing like getting a boost from an unforced error. This abortion flip flopping is probably worse then just taking an unfavorable position as it keeps the abortion issue front and center. I think his only play is to pretend to be all in on being pro life. He's not going to soften the pro choice vote by pretending to be on their side a little bit. But he does risk losing the hardline pro lifers if he tries it. How much is that risk? I am skeptical but you can't afford to lose very many. But in the end I think they'll still vote for him so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 37 minutes ago, oblong said: I think his only play is to pretend to be all in on being pro life. He's not going to soften the pro choice vote by pretending to be on their side a little bit. But he does risk losing the hardline pro lifers if he tries it. How much is that risk? I am skeptical but you can't afford to lose very many. But in the end I think they'll still vote for him so who knows. Yeah - I don't even know if the anti-abortion voter cares what Trump thinks personally, they already knew that abortion wasn't his issue. What they do know is that he is captive to their side on court appointments. They know he will roll over for them both on appointments and any anti-abortion legislation sent to him by a GOP Congress so I don't see him losing their votes. OTOH, you are correct, he isn't persuading and pro-choice voter he can be trusted on the issue for all the same reasons plus Dodd. Where he hurts himself doing stuff like this is with uncommitted voters with low motivations on abortion either way. It just shows him to be playing politics, being calculating and convictionless - all things that make a negative impression on voters. Edited September 4 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Borrowing a bit from JVL. If we believe the Party of DJT we are living in a hellhole. Yet... Quote How does someone listen to Donald Trump describe the American economy as a hellscape and then walk out onto the deck of his $3m lake house and say, “Dammit, Veronica, he’s right. Look at this disaster.” By the same token, how does anyone look at the real world and not understand how great things are? We just broke all records for air travel in August. This is not a thing you do unless the economy is in good shape. Quote We are a people largely untethered from reality. People who live in lake houses and fly for vacations and tell themselves that it’s American Carnage are not going to be capable of democratic self-governance when actualeconomic pain comes. https://substack.com/redirect/891faeb7-8f2e-4a7d-9c7a-100b510706d0?j=eyJ1IjoiNDV3Y20ifQ.CggfOU-yqNt6DYIiDeKPBwq9veGlU84UfbYj1_sPDzA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 conversation from Terminator 2 comes to mind: "We aren't going to make it are we?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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