chasfh Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 4 hours ago, ewsieg said: Nothing like getting a boost from an unforced error. This abortion flip flopping is probably worse then just taking an unfavorable position as it keeps the abortion issue front and center. Not for nothing, this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 hours ago, oblong said: I think his only play is to pretend to be all in on being pro life. He's not going to soften the pro choice vote by pretending to be on their side a little bit. But he does risk losing the hardline pro lifers if he tries it. How much is that risk? I am skeptical but you can't afford to lose very many. But in the end I think they'll still vote for him so who knows. Perhaps they'll still vote for him because they think he is kidding, or even better, because they think he is lying just to suppress the libtard vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, romad1 said: conversation from Terminator 2 comes to mind: "We aren't going to make it are we?" No way Catturd2 is not Russian or Iranian ops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 16 minutes ago, chasfh said: Not for nothing, this: I don't think they will vote blue but this could de-motivate a lot them from voting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: I don't think they will vote blue but this could de-motivate a lot them from voting. I still think they might vote for Trump because they hope he's being deceitful on their behalf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 They’ll vote for him. Only Democrats do these purity tests. Republicans fall in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Thomas Edsall's NYT column today was feedback from a lot of political observers all to the effect that no-one's mind is changing and that the election will be won on turnout. Per his reporting, Harris' poll increases have all been recovery of 2020 Biden voters or in groups already disposed to the Dems side. So to the degree that that is true, anything that drives disillusionment or cynicism on the red side is good for the blue even in the absence of anyone changing sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 Seeing on Bluesky that Liz Cheney endorsed Vice President Harris https://bsky.app/profile/phillewis.bsky.social/post/3l3edz36srf2z 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 29 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Oh baby....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I suspect it's more related to the cleanup needed regarding the Vermont or New Hampshire Trump campaign head that emailed everyone under him to stop trying and instead focus on PA as their state was a lost cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 minutes ago, ewsieg said: I suspect it's more related to the cleanup needed regarding the Vermont or New Hampshire Trump campaign head that emailed everyone under him to stop trying and instead focus on PA as their state was a lost cause. The thing with Trump is that it could be at least three or four different things.... the NH comments, Arlington Cemetary, something health related, who TF knows with these guys. But as we learned during the end of days of the Biden Campaign, when things aren't going well, you see a lot of stuff like this come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 My initial thought because of the proximity of the Russia influence story is that it was related to that. Second was that Trump reacting to the new classified information in the J6 case. That story promises great insanity. Next, speculation is involving ties between the shooter and Trump: Trump on tape calling the kid a name while he was waiting for an autograph maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 "He's just joking" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gehringer_2 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: "He's just joking" That's exactly the kind lapse that led the Dems to force Biden out. He was 100% running against Biden in his mind there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 strange how age being an issue in the campaign went away. It's not. Just indicative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 And now....the rest of the story I think his actions were still wrong. I support the protest, just the way he tried to execute it considering recent circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 hours ago, mtutiger said: Makes sense. There was no way Fox and Hannity were going to take a chance on a rogue questioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 There is so much wrong with this answer. Most likely Grandma and Grandpa are still working. And if they're not they're still active enough to have lives of their own. Also sharing duties (if possible) leads to more problems than they solve, since one or both sides of the extended family will eventually feel like they got the short end of the deal. In the end both the child, parents and grand parents may find themselves in a family rift. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 11 hours ago, mtutiger said: Apropos of something, I feel as though anyone who rocks an American flag in their Twitter handle or in their tweets are trying to throw off the scent in clumsy and obvious fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: There is so much wrong with this answer. Most likely Grandma and Grandpa are still working. And if they're not they're still active enough to have lives of their own. Also sharing duties (if possible) leads to more problems than they solve, since one or both sides of the extended family will eventually feel like they got the short end of the deal. In the end both the child, parents and grand parents may find themselves in a family rift. and maybe the kids live 70 miles from grandma and grandpa or auntie and uncle. I remember once on social media talking about someting similar and a former member of this site said "Well traditionally you would have a family member help out with that rather than make it society's problem". A social worker friend of mine jumped in immediately calling him out for not understanding that many people don't have anybody to help them. My mother in law said something similar to my wife who had to tell her she has a lot of patients who are expected to survive on SS disability with no means to work and nobody to help them. $975 a month doesn't go far. Such narrow minded fools. They have no empathy and that's one reason I quit being a conservative. Not everybody is fortunate enough to come from "good stock". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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