2024 Presidential Election thread

[oblong]

I don’t know. As long as **** is being cancelled in Ohio it stays. 
 

it’s been a long time since something angered me in politics and this is one.  It’s another big line that’s been crossed. 

[mtutiger]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

This was an attempt, it was wrong, and it was not a false flag. 

Just an addendum, but given everything that we have seen from his candidacy just this week in Ohio, I'd be lying if I said it was easy to find sympathy for him. Doesn't change the fact that it was wrong, there's never a reason for political violence, obviously.

But it doesn't change that he's not a sympathetic figure and that he's clearly demonstrated that he's more than willing to inflict pain and trauma on others if he feels it advances his interests.

Edited September 16, 2024 by mtutiger

[mtutiger]

25 minutes ago, oblong said:

I don’t know. As long as **** is being cancelled in Ohio it stays. 

Also assumes that this doesn't trigger more stupidity going forward from Trump's Campaign. Which, unfortunately, seems very likely.

This is the counterintuitive take that I've seen today that bears some consideration:

What happened today just reinforces and associates Trump's brand with chaos.... and perhaps reminds the persuadable voters that remain of various moments of chaos in term one.

It's not a popular take, we are all conditioned to believe that "everything that happens helps Trump." But that's often not true... the muted response to his first assassination attempt should be a good example.

Edited September 16, 2024 by mtutiger

[oblong]

Good take.  People are sick of it. As I saw a comedian say a few years ago about why he liked Joe Biden. “If you ask me what Joe Biden did today…. I don’t know.  I like not knowing what the president is doing every five minutes”

[Motor City Sonics]

11 hours ago, oblong said:

Good take.  People are sick of it. As I saw a comedian say a few years ago about why he liked Joe Biden. “If you ask me what Joe Biden did today…. I don’t know.  I like not knowing what the president is doing every five minutes”

Supposed to be boring.  Like a home plate umpire.   Obama was boring.   Eisenhower was boring.    They just did the job.   Obama was so boring the biggest scandal was wearing a tan suit.  

[Motor City Sonics]

11 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Also assumes that this doesn't trigger more stupidity going forward from Trump's Campaign. Which, unfortunately, seems very likely.

This is the counterintuitive take that I've seen today that bears some consideration:

What happened today just reinforces and associates Trump's brand with chaos.... and perhaps reminds the persuadable voters that remain of various moments of chaos in term one.

It's not a popular take, we are all conditioned to believe that "everything that happens helps Trump." But that's often not true... the muted response to his first assassination attempt should be a good example.

But the reason some of us feel that way is he should have never gotten to the White House in the first place and he should have been done for good after January 6th.    We used to have standards.    If someone says  "Hey, Madonna should run for President".   Why not?  How is she any less qualified than Trump?      This orange baboon actually asked if drinking cleanser would be a way to fight Covid and people shrugged it off.   People were calling hospitals to see if they could drink it.  Experts had to go on TV and tell people NOT to do this.    Just Don being Don..........He's just joking.     

[romad1]

 

[romad1]

Just now, romad1 said:

 

Perfectly encapsulates Hell for many.  The fact that the guy posting it is a nutter and that to understand the humor requires watching a high-brow movie so, many won't get the joke and it will only land with a certain cadre of smug intellectuals. 

[chasfh]

I see they are releasing a lot more details about this guy than they did about the kid in the Pennsylvania attempt. Not for nothing, even though this guy appeared to support Trump the first time, social media posts indicate he quickly abandoned Trump, and now it’s easier to draw a straighter line to Democratic politics with this guy, which is what’s going to fuel a greater effort to implicate Kamala as behind an assassination attempt.

[Motor City Sonics]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I see they are releasing a lot more details about this guy than they did about the kid in the Pennsylvania attempt. Not for nothing, even though this guy appeared to support Trump the first time, social media posts indicate he quickly abandoned Trump, and now it’s easier to draw a straighter line to Democratic politics with this guy, which is what’s going to fuel a greater effort to implicate Kamala as behind an assassination attempt.

He was a big Tulsi Gabbard fan too.     But yep,  They'll put this guy in meetings with Kamala.   They'll have him dating her by Tuesday.  

[chasfh]

Well, that sure didn’t take long. 

 

[mtutiger]

25 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I see they are releasing a lot more details about this guy than they did about the kid in the Pennsylvania attempt. Not for nothing, even though this guy appeared to support Trump the first time, social media posts indicate he quickly abandoned Trump, and now it’s easier to draw a straighter line to Democratic politics with this guy, which is what’s going to fuel a greater effort to implicate Kamala as behind an assassination attempt.

He endorsed Vivek/Nikki as a ticket in this election, so I would say he's still pretty hard to pin down politically. As most mental cases are.

[mtutiger]

Awesome, thanks JD

[CMRivdogs]

10 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

He endorsed Vivek/Nikki as a ticket in this election, so I would say he's still pretty hard to pin down politically. As most mental cases are.

Trumpers conveniently forget those facts.  

[romad1]

14 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Awesome, thanks JD

its important to not sanewash that JD stated that the GOP will allow as many people as need to be harmed so the mainstream media will cover their bogus story. 

[oblong]

When my wife lived in Springfield during a college internship, she went to a wine/cheese party at Wittenberg.

We thought it was a cool small town. It had history.  Like the kind you'd come across driving along the pre-interstate highways.  Probably dependent upon a major industry and if that goes.. then the town goes.  Old Victorian houses, grand gov't buildings.  Granted, we had to drive to Dayton for fun things to do if you are 23 years old but still... she has fond memories.  She lived in a duplex where the other half was made up of.... Mexican migrant famlies who would come up for the season to work, then go back home when the work was over.  It was the same family that came year after year.  When my wife's internship ended in May we saw them coming in.  The half my wife lived in was kept for students like her rotating through the hospital.

 

[Motown Bombers]

Even Trafalgar has her up in Nevada. 

 

[mtutiger]

34 minutes ago, oblong said:

When my wife lived in Springfield during a college internship, she went to a wine/cheese party at Wittenberg.

We thought it was a cool small town. It had history.  Like the kind you'd come across driving along the pre-interstate highways.  Probably dependent upon a major industry and if that goes.. then the town goes.  Old Victorian houses, grand gov't buildings.  Granted, we had to drive to Dayton for fun things to do if you are 23 years old but still... she has fond memories.  

Sounds like Bay City, tbh. Particularly the gilded Victorians

[CMRivdogs]

This one is on the Trump org not the Secret Service

[mtutiger]

Thanks again, JD

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

He endorsed Vivek/Nikki as a ticket in this election, so I would say he's still pretty hard to pin down politically. As most mental cases are.

I didn't see anything like that in the CNN or Daily Beast stories I read about him earlier, but assuming it's true, either way, in that world, if you are not a full-throated supporter of Trump, you're a RINO at best, and more likely a Marxist commie Democrat.

[chasfh]

41 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Thanks again, JD

Or so I would imagine him saying ...

[mtutiger]

 

[mtutiger]

20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I didn't see anything like that in the CNN or Daily Beast stories I read about him earlier, but assuming it's true, either way, in that world, if you are not a full-throated supporter of Trump, you're a RINO at best, and more likely a Marxist commie Democrat.

OK

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

 

people are gonna die

Edited September 16, 2024 by chasfh