2024 Presidential Election thread

[Motown Bombers]

6 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Whether he gets out or not, they need to make sure they don't let Trump off the hook... He endorsed, called him "MLK on steroids" with his campaign knowing full well that this guy had big skeletons in his closet.

What are you talking about, Trump has never heard of Mike Robertson. 

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[mtutiger]

There's a lot of tape 

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[RatkoVarda]

when this guy got up this morning, little did he know he would be talking on camera about tranny porn

 

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[RatkoVarda]

34 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

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That would be so perfect

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1 minute ago, RatkoVarda said:

That would be so perfect

Nobody thought Georgia would turn blue and elect two Dems to the senate in 2020. Texas has been trending that way for a while. 

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[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

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I remember seeing Beto up on Cruz by 3-4%. 

I think this polling is mostly horse****. 

[Edman85]

Morning consult has a D lean. Cherry picking can distort.

[Motown Bombers]

43 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I remember seeing Beto up on Cruz by 3-4%. 

I think this polling is mostly horse****. 

One poll in September of 2018 had Beto up 3. Why is the poll horse****? Texas has moved left every election for the past couple cycles. 

[mtutiger]

29 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Morning consult has a D lean. Cherry picking can distort.

Settling aside lean (IDK, I can buy there being a semi close race for this seat, Cruz is that polarizing), biggest issue is vote share... The Presidential race found 50-46 Trump, this poll found a 46-45 Allred result.

More undecideds, and you cannot assume they are all splitting evenly

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

One poll in September of 2018 had Beto up 3. Why is the poll horse****? Texas has moved left every election for the past couple cycles. 

Yeah, Beto overperformed polls in 2018 IIRC. And literally no one thought he'd finish within two.

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Settling aside lean (IDK, I can buy there being a semi close race for this seat, Cruz is that polarizing), biggest issue is vote share... The Presidential race found 50-46 Trump, this poll found a 46-45 Allred result.

More undecideds, and you cannot assume they are all splitting evenly

It could also mean they are unhappy with the top of the ticket and will vote third party and/or leave blank but still vote Allred.

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So simple, and true

[mtutiger]

18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

It could also mean they are unhappy with the top of the ticket and will vote third party and/or leave blank but still vote Allred.

True as well....

I will say this though... if Texas is close in the Presidential race (like, 2% win for Trump close), Cruz goes down IMO.... there will be a gap between the two races, and MC, whatever their lean, backs up what other pollsters have found on that question.

[RatkoVarda]

Trump encourages Israel to stop Harris. Foreign interference in US elections is a crime. No one cares.

 

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Trump encourages Israel to stop Harris. Foreign interference in US elections is a crime. No one cares.

 

But Dearborn is going to throw MI to Trump...

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8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

But Dearborn is going to throw MI to Trump...

it's such a weird mixture.... and I think part of their conflict is the fact that Harris a woman.  To many outsiders, arab/muslim votesrs are "arab/muslim".  It goes beyond that.  You have Lebanese, Syrian, Yemeni, Iraqi, Iranian.... how long have their families been here?  Are they sunni/shia, or some other branch?  It gets very tribal and I've seen neighbors argue over it.  Recently there was some festival for a son of Muhammad and they were going at it like Irish Catholics and Protestants.   So you combine that with the election:  The Vote Uncommitted Group will not endorse Harris but will actively work to make sure Trump isn't elected... ok?  What does that mean?  And a lot of the Arab/Muslim voters do like Trump because they're rich (You should see the houses being built here) and don't care about Palestine or Gaza... yeah they might pay lip service to it, but at the end of the day its all about money.  This is a culture that thinks taxes and interest are nearly sins.  Everything is cash only and they operate outside of the system whenever they can.  You see an abundance of "Dealer" and "In Transit - Repair" plates in Dearborn.... that way you get out of certain regristraton and insurance requirements.  A dentist was shot and killed for working out of his basement and in a money dispute with a patient.  Why go the real dentist and deal with insurance and all that?   Just go see "a guy" that a cousin told him about.  

 

[Motown Bombers]

I live next to Sterling Heights which is next to Dearborn and Hamtramck in Arabs and I haven’t seen or heard a peep about Palestine. I have Arab neighbors but I never talk to them. It’s mostly women and men show up on the weekends. I think they are stashing wives here. 

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Early voting starting in Virginia.