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1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

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If they insist that abortion should be illegal but with exceptions for rape and incest, then they have to admit that the issue is not even a little about sanctity of life, but 100% about controlling women and girls.

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Three things

1.  I'm sure that Donald Trump understands what women want more than Kamala Harris.     

2.  Women in the center just love hearing that only a man can fix their problems.  That'll resonate with them.  

3.  As Biden said about one of his "only I can" claims   "Then why didn't he when he was President"? 

 

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1 hour ago, chasfh said:

If they insist that abortion should be illegal but with exceptions for rape and incest, then they have to admit that the issue is not even a little about sanctity of life, but 100% about controlling women and girls.

It's more complicated that that.  There are some who want to control women and girls and some who are horrified by abortion because they think it's murder.  

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3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

It's more complicated that that.  There are some who want to control women and girls and some who are horrified by abortion because they think it's murder.  

So those who think abortion is murder are OK murdering rape and incest babies?

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5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

So those who think abortion is murder are OK murdering rape and incest babies?

I dont think they think that deeply. Like everything else, It's a binary thing for them.  The people making the laws with exceptions for rape and incest are just pretending to be reasonable for the middle of the road midwestern women.  

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On 9/20/2024 at 9:09 PM, smr-nj said:

... Other than the fact that it probably makes Trump’s head explode, it’s ...

This is the only reason that the Harris-Walz campaign would release these numbers or encourage them to be released.

To make Trump's head explode.

You hit the nail on the head.

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3 hours ago, chasfh said:

So those who think abortion is murder are OK murdering rape and incest babies?

I agree. I can almost respect the opinion that abortion should be considered murder, and take that position to its conclusion. When your position is “it’s murder, but…”, thats a pretty bad argument. 

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6 hours ago, chasfh said:

They like to say “Kamala is going to take your guns.” Exactly. She’s going to take our guns just as Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton did when they were President, as we were warned they would. 

I’m still waiting for the Communism I was promised if Biden got elected. 

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3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I dont think they think that deeply. Like everything else, It's a binary thing for them.  The people making the laws with exceptions for rape and incest are just pretending to be reasonable for the middle of the road midwestern women.  

You may be right, so maybe someone should undertake the effort to educate right-to-lifers who favor a rape-and-incest exception on what that really means.

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12 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

There is no Republican Party now.  It has turned into some kind of mix of Authoritarian White Christian Nationalist Populist with Trump throwing some communism in there.  

Indeed. It's sort of sad to see guys like Romney and Ryan. They're like Miss Havisham in Great Expectation, sitting among the cobwebs in her wedding gown, locked in the past of an electorate that abandoned them at the altar.

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9 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

This is what 45% of this country wants

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Oh my God, he’s gonna make it necessary for me to gather up all of my Italian women friends and we’re gonna bring all our wooden spoons and then we’re gonna beat Donald Trump with the wooden spoons every time he says **** this stupid. I’ll Just smack him right in his forehead, with one of my three favorites big wood spoons…. You know, for stirring the meatballs on the Sunday sauce.  Then I’ll let some of the other ladies smack them on his behind. Smack him on his mouth, we got hundreds of places we could smack him.

Unfortunately, then we’ll have to throw these tools away.  Don’t worry
Don, we’ve got more, and We will make as many return trips as it takes to get the message through your gabadost.
 

He’s a gigantic orange stoonad.

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7 hours ago, ben9753 said:

I agree. I can almost respect the opinion that abortion should be considered murder, and take that position to its conclusion. When your position is “it’s murder, but…”, thats a pretty bad argument. 

I remember Michael Kinsley making the argument 30 years ago. If you really thought abortion was murder then you have to support and encourage the killing of the doctors and mothers.  I mean…. They are allegedly murdering what you consider babies that deserve full rights.  

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3 hours ago, oblong said:

I remember Michael Kinsley making the argument 30 years ago. If you really thought abortion was murder then you have to support and encourage the killing of the doctors and mothers.  I mean…. They are allegedly murdering what you consider babies that deserve full rights.  

And if doctors and mothers are tried for and convicted of murder in states with the death penalty, then the state would have to execute them … you know, right to life.

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