gehringer_2 Posted Sunday at 11:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:05 PM 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: He also said if he lost to Joe Biden in 2020 we'd never see him again. You won't have **** Nixon to kick around anymore. -RMN, 1962 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted Sunday at 11:40 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:40 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: He also said if he lost to Joe Biden in 2020 we'd never see him again. Setting aside the legal cases, will he even be alive when he's 82? For as much attention as Biden's health has garnered, Trump would be older than him in 2028 and undoubtedly lives a less healthy life. Incidentally, this doubles as (yet another) reason to vote against him; the possibility that JD Vance graces the Oval Office Edited Sunday at 11:40 PM by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Ronz Posted Sunday at 11:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:52 PM 5 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Were they really normal, rational people or did they just hide their hate and bigotry because it was considered taboo (whereas now they are being told it's OK)? Exactly this. They were not normal, rational people and unfortunately, due to Trump, they are now not only openly racist but passed it down to the younger generations as well who were - surprisingly to me - delighted and appreciative of this "gift." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 12:08 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:08 AM (edited) 28 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Setting aside the legal cases, will he even be alive when he's 82? For as much attention as Biden's health has garnered, Trump would be older than him in 2028 and undoubtedly lives a less healthy life. Incidentally, this doubles as (yet another) reason to vote against him; the possibility that JD Vance graces the Oval Office The Democratic campaign has to find ways to make this point without sounding too maudlin, because it is an important one. Pence was an ideological nut job, but he was at least sane and has some institutional ethics. Vance is an arrested development wanna-be who is being played by his oligarchy donors but is too dumb to know it or maybe just too morally bankrupt to care. Edited Monday at 12:09 AM by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted Monday at 12:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:38 AM 25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: The Democratic campaign has to find ways to make this point without sounding too maudlin, because it is an important one. Pence was an ideological nut job, but he was at least sane and has some institutional ethics. Vance is an arrested development wanna-be who is being played by his oligarchy donors but is too dumb to know it or maybe just too morally bankrupt to care. I don't think Pence is a nut job. He has conservative beliefs and I will almost always disagree with him, but I think he is sane. I also think his beliefs are shared by a very large portion of the electorate. He is not radical, just somebody who I am almost never going to agree with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 12:42 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:42 AM 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: He has conservative beliefs that's what I said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted Monday at 01:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:36 AM 9 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: I think some women may be depressed, but ever since the Roe v. Wade overturn, women seem more empowered and motivated than ever to take part in the whole process. Waiting for these rise in crime statistics..........haven't seen them yet. In fact, crime has gone down. I mean, there's freaking cameras EVERYWHERE now, I don't know how anyone gets away with a serious violent crime. Joe Biden was supposed to let all the violent criminals go free and was going to pay for the government to throw them parties: Whoops: Crime is down Joe Biden will destroy this economy Stock Market is setting records. Rich are getting richer than ever (but still hate Joe) Eggs will be $9 a carton because of Joe Biden's inflation Inflation was worldwide and the U.S. is coming out of it faster than anyone. In fact - Disinflation is happening at a record pace under Biden Gas will be $7 a gallon We're the #1 oil-producing country in the world now and gas prices are much cheaper here than just about anywhere else. Rob Schneider won't be allowed to tell racist, sexist and homophobic jokes under a woke nation. Well, let me know when he comes up with a joke in the first place. Rob needs to focus on getting his daughter through rehab. Now they say if Harris is elected the Auto Companies will DIE ! Yes, that is actually in an add - they will DIE ! Why? electric vehicles. The big auto companies in the US are moving towards electric vehicles no matter who is President. They aren't turning back from that and it has nothing to do with being "woke" There's videos of Trump running in 2020 where he says nobody will be allowed to celebrate Christmas ever again. Then different videos where he says the same things about every other major holiday. And his base ate it up and spread it all around to their Facebook friends. It's why he loves the uneducated. It's easier to fool a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted Monday at 12:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:51 PM 12 hours ago, The Ronz said: Exactly this. They were not normal, rational people and unfortunately, due to Trump, they are now not only openly racist but passed it down to the younger generations as well who were - surprisingly to me - delighted and appreciative of this "gift." The young ‘uns have heard from grandpa how the white man used to be on top in the old days, and that’s a seductive sell to white kids who live in exurban and rural areas where they see things aren’t going so good economically for them and their nearly 100% white neighbors, all while they see on the News about how the n-bombs and their trans kids who are ruining the cities are itching to come on out and do the same to their Hallmark Channel town. Who wouldn’t want to vote for that amirite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Monday at 12:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:53 PM 11 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: There's videos of Trump running in 2020 where he says nobody will be allowed to celebrate Christmas ever again. Then different videos where he says the same things about every other major holiday. And his base ate it up and spread it all around to their Facebook friends. It's why he loves the uneducated. It's easier to fool a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted Monday at 01:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:07 PM 11 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: There's videos of Trump running in 2020 where he says nobody will be allowed to celebrate Christmas ever again. Then different videos where he says the same things about every other major holiday. And his base ate it up and spread it all around to their Facebook friends. It's why he loves the uneducated. It's easier to fool a fool. Here you go, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 01:21 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:21 PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Monday at 01:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:42 PM 20 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: There is no way the Trump campaign are not doing things like this on purpose to troll liberals and distract them from the important terrible things the Trumpers are saying, proposing, and doing. I mean, come on, this is so obvious, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 01:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:57 PM 8 minutes ago, chasfh said: There is no way the Trump campaign are not doing things like this on purpose to troll liberals and distract them from the important terrible things the Trumpers are saying, proposing, and doing. I mean, come on, this is so obvious, isn't it? LOL - I could see it play out as some intern asking google for "Georgia Scenery" and somebody higher up then decides to let it go just because of that. But OTOH, even if gives them a troll on social media, you wouldn't think that would play well in Georgia so it would still be sort of a risky plan. Of course your 'Local GM dealers' have been running ads in Detroit for years that are clearly shot in CA. I do always laugh at that, yet I also own a GM vehicle. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Monday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:04 PM 21 minutes ago, chasfh said: There is no way the Trump campaign are not doing things like this on purpose to troll liberals and distract them from the important terrible things the Trumpers are saying, proposing, and doing. I mean, come on, this is so obvious, isn't it? I think the fact that they get a lot of help from abroad is part of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Monday at 02:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:15 PM Sam Elliot lets fly with a couple cusswords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Monday at 02:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:16 PM 3 minutes ago, romad1 said: I think the fact that they get a lot of help from abroad is part of this. I believe that, too, although the question at hand is whether they mistakenly included the Georgia country instead of the state, or whether they did so purposefully as part of a psyop thing. I'm thinking the latter is actually pretty likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Monday at 02:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:26 PM 8 minutes ago, chasfh said: I believe that, too, although the question at hand is whether they mistakenly included the Georgia country instead of the state, or whether they did so purposefully as part of a psyop thing. I'm thinking the latter is actually pretty likely. Quote Napoleon Bonaparte famously declared: "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." And this is Hanlon's razor. In other words, it's better to assume someone's actions are the result of ignorance or lack of understanding, rather than intentional cruelty. But, that said...the very fact that they got help from Russia and those guys are idiots is sort of saying its a rich tapestry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Monday at 02:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:33 PM 5 minutes ago, romad1 said: But, that said...the very fact that they got help from Russia and those guys are idiots is sort of saying its a rich tapestry. I get Hanson and I agree with it, but what American would honestly confuse Georgia the American state with Georgia the Russian vassal state? It barely seems possible to confuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Monday at 02:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:39 PM 5 minutes ago, chasfh said: I get Hanson and I agree with it, but what American would honestly confuse Georgia the American state with Georgia the Russian vassal state? It barely seems possible to confuse. Mbop, Hanson's Razor is to ascribe to malice any music which increases the urge to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:41 PM 24 minutes ago, romad1 said: Sam Elliot lets fly with a couple cusswords Lincoln project has been producing these nice pieces for years now, but is anybody paying to run them anywhere that matters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted Monday at 02:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:43 PM 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: Lincoln project has been producing these nice pieces for years now, but is anybody paying to run them anywhere that matters? I dunno, Biden won in 2020, the Dems did very well in the 2022 mid terms compared to where they were supposed to be, so you tell me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted Monday at 02:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:52 PM I think stuff like that is just mastebatory for people already in the fold. They're cute but not changing anybody's minds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 02:58 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:58 PM (edited) 16 minutes ago, romad1 said: I dunno, Biden won in 2020, the Dems did very well in the 2022 mid terms compared to where they were supposed to be, so you tell me You've made a pretty bold leap from cause to effect there par'dner. It's serious question though because if they are just hoping for retweets or angling for inside the beltway recognition to burnish their credentials for their next gigs, that's not as useful as actually buying blocks of air time on KCWY, and while this is purely a guess, since I have no idea, I would doubt that any official Democratic Party funding sources are too big on directly funding Lincoln Project even if they like the product. So the question is the work really being effectively exploited or just producing feel good vibes in the choir? (EDIT: to put it a little more prosaically than Rob just did...) Edited Monday at 03:00 PM by gehringer_2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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