2024 Presidential Election thread

[The Ronz]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Everyone believes in the personal Trump they have in their head, and while they all might want different things from him, the one thing that connects all of them is that they will vote for him.

This is a good observation of the Trump supporter.

Most of the ones I know view him as a Christ-like figure and their "relationship" with him is very personal.

I know a few who actually believe that he is indeed Christ himself.

Gas prices went down - "It is Trump's will."

The Tigers make the play-offs - "Trump works in mysterious ways."

Something bad happens - "Trump has a plan for all of us."

It is the damnedest thing I have ever seen especially since most of the Trump supporters I know are not "religious" in any sense of the word. 

[Edman85]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

That’s not the issue. Biden and Harris are avoiding the area right now so as to not take away those resources. Trump had to race in for a photo op and hog the resources. 

I do want to point out Micro knows a thing or two about this subject matter. You'd be wise to defer to him here.

 

If you aren't familiar with his professional resume leading up the reconstruction of the levees in New Orleans and handling many hurricane aftermaths...

Edited September 30, 2024 by Edman85

[romad1]

this is right

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I think the average voter will want to see their leaders on the ground, showing they care. Photo opportunity or not. To the average voter and likely to many on the ground, the argument of taking up resources is probably not something they're thinking much about. Visibility seems key and even if Trump is taking photo ops using bricks from a damaged building or throwing paper towels like a basketball, he is still there. I do hope Harris and Biden both visit it soon.

[Motown Bombers]

26 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

I do want to point out Micro knows a thing or two about this subject matter. You'd be wise to defer to him here.

 

If you aren't familiar with his professional resume leading up the reconstruction of the levees in New Orleans and handling many hurricane aftermaths...

That’s great, but the issue is Trump showing up in the first place. 

[mtutiger]

35 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

I do want to point out Micro knows a thing or two about this subject matter. You'd be wise to defer to him here.

 

If you aren't familiar with his professional resume leading up the reconstruction of the levees in New Orleans and handling many hurricane aftermaths...

Micro knows more about this stuff than any of us, but to clarify, my point was never the concept of it being wrong for a leader to ever visit a disaster site but rather that visits should take into account timing. I probably wasn't as clear as I should have been in my initial post, but that's it.

Maybe the situation on the ground in Valdosta is different, but at the same time Biden and Harris are being grilled by people for not parachuting into Asheville right now even though local leaders wouldn't want them in there until such time that the situation is stabilized. 

According to the President, he's likely to go to NC this week.... hopefully the VP will go as well at some point.  But at least as it pertains to Asheville and the situation in the mountains, it would be a mistake to go there right now. Politics be damned.

Edited September 30, 2024 by mtutiger

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

Your turn Mitt

 

Honest question: is "not endorsing" exactly the same as "not voting for"? Or can she mentally parse a difference between the two?

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

here is a Republican endorsement that Harris could get.

That and that of Mike Dewine.

lol:

"Turns out, Vance didn't want to have one-on-one call with Rue — the senator sought a group call with constituents.

"'We didn't trust what that would look like because we were concerned those being brought on may not even be our constituents.' said the mayor ..."

  

Edited September 30, 2024 by chasfh

[romad1]

 

[The Ronz]

40 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Honest question: is "not endorsing" exactly the same as "not voting for"? Or can she mentally parse a difference between the two?

IMHO "Not endorsing Trump" means being publicly opposed to him but still voting for him.

[smr-nj]

18 minutes ago, romad1 said:

 

Well, isn’t that lovely. 🤬

[romad1]

The Harris being called mentally handicapped thing needs to be blasted hard 

[smr-nj]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

The Harris being called mentally handicapped thing needs to be blasted hard 

Unfortunately, it’s already yesterday’s news, and not one media outlet seems to think it even deserves a second day nod.

The amount of **** we allow to just roll off his back without repercussions is pathetic.

[romad1]

Trump claiming that Biden and Kemp had not spoken.   I would love it if Kemp would endorse Biden over this.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[chasfh]

19 hours ago, smr-nj said:

Unfortunately, it’s already yesterday’s news, and not one media outlet seems to think it even deserves a second day nod.

The amount of **** we allow to just roll off his back without repercussions is pathetic.

And that’s why the Firehose of Horrors works so well: you can’t focus too long on one when another one comes down the pipe.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

No focus on this part outside this tweet, obviously, but referring to “the women thing” really brings home how Trump views people as either tools to exploit or as pests to squash.

[Motor City Sonics]

20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

No focus on this part outside this tweet, obviously, but referring to “the women thing” really brings home how Trump views people as either tools to exploit or as pests to squash.

Its what happens when you have no real friends that can level with you (or level you when you deserve it).  A whole life time of kiss-asses looking for money (that he probably never had anyway)    Nobody to tell him "Dude, you're being an ass" and having that stick.     Dude has never had a true friend his whole life.   That's why he act like this.  

[chasfh]

12 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Its what happens when you have no real friends that can level with you (or level you when you deserve it).  A whole life time of kiss-asses looking for money (that he probably never had anyway)    Nobody to tell him "Dude, you're being an ass" and having that stick.     Dude has never had a true friend his whole life.   That's why he act like this.  

Trump never wanted friends. Friends are for losers, because having friends requires you to be vulnerable sometimes, and vulnerable people are total losers.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Thing number 1,410,367 that would have ended almost any other candidates presidential campaign and yet will have no effect on this clown.

[chasfh]

5 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Thing number 1,410,367 that would have ended almost any other candidates presidential campaign and yet will have no effect on this clown.

I got news for you: Trump is P.T. Barnum. We’re the clowns.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[gehringer_2]

57 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

1st amendment rights not withstanding, there has to be some legal remedy in any society against a pathological public liar like Trump. Without some kind of reform of US libel law to give people recourse against internet amplified public calumny like this the republic is doomed.

Edited October 1, 2024 by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

I know we are numb to it all, but this a vile thing to say. Vile.