2024 Presidential Election thread

[CMRivdogs]

2 hours ago, 1776 said:

Liz Cheney is on my list as a write-in vote for the presidency. 

Be like Liz and her dad, grow a pair

 

[mtutiger]

34 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Iowa could get interesting. 

 

The Iowa ones are the most important ones and the movement is notable, but while I don't want to get too in the weeds on this stuff, I'm not sure there was really any justification for IN-01 or IL-17 to ever be "Lean D"... 

Obviously Cook knows more than we do, but in general they take a really really cautious approach, particularly with D candidates.... took them forever to move Josh Stein's race off of "Toss Up", for instance.

Edited 10 hours ago by mtutiger

[1776]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Makes perfect sense to vote for someone not running instead of the person she’s endorsing. You’re really sticking it to the man. 

There is no way I can vote for Harris or Trump. If I truly was about “sticking it to the man” as you infer, I’d vote for Harris. 
 

 

[Tigerbomb13]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

It’s pretty incredible that there’s people in 2024 that still don’t know to expect this from him. 

[The Ronz]

That's because they watch Fox 24/7/365.

They literally hear nothing but "Trump is great" - "The Democrats are bad" - "Trump is being prosecuted unfairly" - etc.

They literally do not watch anything else but Fox.

 

 

[Motown Bombers]

46 minutes ago, 1776 said:

There is no way I can vote for Harris or Trump. If I truly was about “sticking it to the man” as you infer, I’d vote for Harris. 
 

 

This is fascinating. What do you expect to accomplish by voting for someone who doesn’t want to be president and endorses someone you’re opposed to?

[Dan Gilmore]

But, but, socialism!!!

[1776]

It’s not really fascinating. I’m not going to endorse either of the two candidates through my vote because I disagree with both on most all issues. I have zero confidence that either of them are fit for the job. That includes the office of local dog catcher. 
I’ll vote the down ticket. There, I’m still debating as well. The same point I make above applies to the NC governor’s race. Well before the CNN story on Robinson broke he was a total no go in my book. Josh Stein is more left of Cooper. 
I’lll vote on US House races and NC General Assembly races and the more local offices. 
 

[1776]

3 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said:

But, but, socialism!!!

What’s that got to do with anything?

[Dan Gilmore]

Everything 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

6 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said:

But, but, socialism!!!

Now, now it’s ok since North Carolina desperately needs help from the people who are not even qualified to be dog catcher. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

We compare Donald Trump to a lot of different people, but really, at his core, Trump is George Wallace. Trump himself might as well have said the famous and racist words of Wallace on segregation. 

[Motown Bombers]

In 2016, it was a dog whistle. Now, it’s a bullhorn. 

[1776]

2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Now, now it’s ok since North Carolina desperately needs help from the people who are not even qualified to be dog catcher. 

It’s too early to determine how effective government will be in handling an already disastrous situation. Prior disasters elsewhere always end up with money going unallocated or poorly timed, or outright wasted. Hoping that won’t be the case here. I’m very proud of the local responses in the western part of N.C. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Even Fox News can't spin the September jobs report from the DOL as bad.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

6 minutes ago, 1776 said:

It’s too early to determine how effective government will be in handling an already disastrous situation. Prior disasters elsewhere always end up with money going unallocated or poorly timed, or outright wasted. Hoping that won’t be the case here. I’m very proud of the local responses in the western part of N.C. 

Forget all the media sensationalism or that from politicians, do you as a person think Donald Trump is a sexist, bigoted and racist person?

Edited 9 hours ago by Mr.TaterSalad

[Motor City Sonics]

8 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Even Fox News can't spin the September jobs report from the DOL as bad.

But my cereal costs more than it did 4 years ago.     

[Motown Bombers]

Trump refused disaster assistance to states that didn’t vote for him, denied 99% of North Carolina’s request after Matthew, but it’s too early to know how effective they will be. 

[1776]

1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Do you think Donald Trump is a bigoted and racist person?

I’ll put it this way, I don’t follow Trump at all, honestly. What I know of him through media reports and the like…my impression is that he dislikes ANYONE that disagrees with him, regardless of color or anything else. He will use any person, regardless of race, to promote himself.
His using the bible as a campaign prop is beyond the worst one could imagine! He preys on those that idolize him. He doesn’t care who he destroys as long as it benefits him. Trump exploits people’s worst intuitions and will use these things as it benefits him. 

[1776]

9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Trump refused disaster assistance to states that didn’t vote for him, denied 99% of North Carolina’s request after Matthew, but it’s too early to know how effective they will be. 

Well, you pointed out how well the federal government works. What’s next?

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, 1776 said:

Well, you pointed out how well the federal government works. What’s next?

Congress needs to approve more funds for FEMA. Last time 100 republicans voted against funding for FEMA but of course let’s vote for the former congresswoman not even running for president. Politics is beneath you. 

[Edman85]

I won't get on people too hard for going third party now after I did it in '16. I regret that, yes, but one vote did not that election make. I just don't see how somebody can look at these two candidates and say 'Yeah, they suck equally"

[The Ronz]

Donald Trump was sued for racism in 1973.

That was over 50 years ago.

Nothing about Trump is new.