Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 36 minutes ago, oblong said: Harris needs to answer questions to these “undecided” voters in PA without mentioning Trump. Is she avoiding the questions? I didn't really watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 17 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Is she avoiding the questions? I didn't really watch it. Watched most of it, I thought she did fine all things considered.... the audience asked fair questions, although I do think Anderson Cooper definitely struck a more confrontational tone. Which is fine, she needs to show she can be challenged on this stage. In baseball terms, more of a double than a home run though. But fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Also, LOL at all the conservatives pearl clutching over her agreeing with the characterization of DJT as a "fascist".... that guy has regularly thrown terms like "fascist" and "communist" and "marxist" at people for years and people just treat it like another day ending in "y" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 36 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Is she avoiding the questions? I didn't really watch it. I was half listening while playing on my phone but every time I looked up it seemed like she was talking about Trump or John Kelly. I’m not criticizing but only speaking in the context of addressing these alleged undecided voters. Just still amazed that here we are treating her like we’ve always done but the other guy didn’t show up and says the most bat**** crazy things and… nothing. Trump gets to hit from the lady tees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 22 minutes ago, oblong said: I was half listening while playing on my phone but every time I looked up it seemed like she was talking about Trump or John Kelly. I’m not criticizing but only speaking in the context of addressing these alleged undecided voters. Just still amazed that here we are treating her like we’ve always done but the other guy didn’t show up and says the most bat**** crazy things and… nothing. Trump gets to hit from the lady tees. There's a balance that has to be struck; if you believe public polling, Trump is running more popular today than he did in 2020 or 2016. You can't avoid talking about him or the comments from John Kelly, have to go after him given that reality to try to drive home that reality to these sorts of voters... but she did enough to pivot to her issues, particularly in the second half of the town hall IMO I thought Dana Bash was unfair at the end in saying that she didn't address her agenda, I thought she did touch on parts of it. Could have done more, but I think she did fine in the grand scheme of things. Edited October 24 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I'm not watching, but sounds like another certified pundit moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: I honestly don't get it... it wasn't that long ago that they were polling decently ahead on economic issues against Harris, and in the time that they have leaned heavily into this stuff, Harris in some recent polling has begun to pull even on economic issues. It seems like malpractice to me, it didn't work in the last midterm or off-year cycle, and yet they keep going back to the well anyway. Sometimes the candidate is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 WOW (literally and figuratively) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) I was talking to my Israeli friend the other day. She lived here for several years, but now is living in Israeli. She left long before Trump was in the picture, but pays close attention to what is happening here. She is a psychologist who flat out said he is a psychopath (not that we needed confirmation). She matter of factly asked if I was preparing to leave the country. I'm not. Edited October 24 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 32 minutes ago, mtutiger said: WOW (literally and figuratively) A few things notable here: He (privately) voted third party in 2016 and (privately) voted for Biden in 2020. Waukesha is the county seat of Waukesha County, emblematic of the Milwaukee suburbs and the largest basket of votes for the GOP in Wisconsin (and a county that he'll likely do worse in this election) Biden lost the City of Waukesha by ~6 points in 2020. He felt the need (and likely that he had the rope with his constituents) to make an endorsement *public* for Kamala Harris We talk about quantitative stuff a lot, but this is qualitative evidence of movement IMO Edited October 24 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 30 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I thought Dana Bash was unfair All politics is personal. I'm have to believe Bash still has a bruised ego after Harris' bested her by not giving her anything she wanted in the earlier interview and so this is what you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Just complete gibberish. His brain is mush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I remain pretty skeptical of early vote analysis, but I do think what we are seeing out of Detroit is a really good sign considering the tendency for the city to struggle with turnout relative to the statewide average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 7 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I was talking to my Israeli friend the other day. She lived here for several years, but now is living in Israeli. She left long before Trump was in the picture, but pays close attention to what is happening here. She is a psychologist who flat out said he is a psychopath (not that we needed confirmation). She matter of factly asked if I was preparing to leave the country. I'm not. The number of people in government who would not work for him will be shocking. People need a paycheck, have mortgages, etc. But, the absolute horror of being among the Eichmans who would emerge in that MF's government will force out a lot of talented people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/2024/10/24/unf-polls-finds-tighter-race-for-u-s-rep-aaron-bean-re-election-bid/75816073007/ Lends some credence to Florida maybe being in play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 7 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Just complete gibberish. His brain is mush. We friends of Lafayette are quite upset. Especially after all we did for him nearly 250 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, romad1 said: The number of people in government who would not work for him will be shocking. People need a paycheck, have mortgages, etc. But, the absolute horror of being among the Eichmans who would emerge in that MF's government will force out a lot of talented people. Honestly, based on what happened with the EPA and NPS service in '16-I expect that Drumpf and company will be happy to see the most talented people leave: unless, of course they happen to be willing to bow to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: There's a lot of dismissal of this and the Waukesha mayor endorsements on social media this AM, but if she ends up doing better with GOP voters than expected (we will see), the signs will have been there in plain sight. Edited October 24 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 40 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: Honestly, based on what happened with the EPA and NPS service in '16-I expect that Drumpf and company will be happy to see the most talented people leave: unless, of course they happen to be willing to bow to him. the next pandemic is right around the corner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, romad1 said: The number of people in government who would not work for him will be shocking. People need a paycheck, have mortgages, etc. But, the absolute horror of being among the Eichmans who would emerge in that MF's government will force out a lot of talented people. I've lost sleep over this exact fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I've lost sleep over this exact fact. It's also the reason that the people who say "well, he wasn't that bad in the first term" are delusional.... he's not going to be surrounded by adults this next time, and to romad's point, the impact will absolutely translate downward to into the actual workforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I'm not a huge fan of endorsements. I do think pointing out some major republicans voting for Harris is big, but when it comes to celebrities, I generally don't care, regardless of what side they fall on. Generally I think they are out of touch anyway and it's just word salad that they deliver their endorsement with. That said, I'd love to see this one seen by more people, well done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 That's the argument I've been making with those who ask me how I'm voting. Trump had guardrails in 2016, both in his administration and in a divided Congress. If Harris wins it's still likely that at least one House of Congress will be Republican, and the Court isn't moving to the left any time soon. Trump will have both houses and the courts in his pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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