Tiger337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 7 minutes ago, Hongbit said: It’s an amazing place. Very underrated on the list of great cities. Bring back the Expos and I'm sold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 17 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Leaving the country over politics is stupid. Stay and fight for what you believe in. It’s 4 years but it could end up much longer if people just give up and leave. Leaving a job over it may be, particularly if you are involved in designing weapons that Trump could use against the American People or our allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 10 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I don't expect it to get bad enough for me personally where uprooting my entire life is going to be a good solution. Every country has its problems and Europe is getting more conservative too. Plus, any problems we have here are going to spill over into the rest of the world unless we lose influence. I agree-the most recent elections in the Netherlands and in Austria show that there may be trouble brewing there. I honestly don't know if I'd be in danger or not. I do worry about my nieces, and about my colleagues from Central America. I personally think people like my colleagues make our country stronger, and that a country in which women are able to make a contribution outside of the home is also a stronger country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 5 minutes ago, Hongbit said: I don't think we are anywhere close to a Nazi Germany situation where people have to fear for their actual lives. That being said, who the hell knows anymore, maybe you are right. I feel like the super wealthy who own this country would not be interested in mass extermination. That wouldn't be good for business. Would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Leaving a job over it may be, particularly if you are involved in designing weapons that Trump could use against the American People or our allies. That's the worst thing about Trump. I have no confidence that he is on my side. I mean if he wouldn't even keep his VP safe, why would I think he's going to keep anyone else safe? I view him as the enemy and I have never felt that way about any President regardless of how much I disagreed with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I feel like the super wealthy who own this country would not be interested in mass extermination. That wouldn't be good for business. Would it? Depends on how it's done. In the short term it might be if one of the steps is forced labor. And unfortunately a lot of decisions are made on short term consequences. Will it come to this? I'm not sure-though our history: slavery, camps for Japanese Americans in WW2, treatment of Native Americans, etc. suggests that it's not out of the realm of possibility. In the long term... it absolutely would be horrible for business because they'd have to compete for a smaller labor pool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 16 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Leaving a job over it may be, particularly if you are involved in designing weapons that Trump could use against the American People or our allies. Or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I feel like the super wealthy who own this country would not be interested in mass extermination. That wouldn't be good for business. Would it? Why would they kill their workforce? No, we are very safe in this work camp. Edited October 24 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Remember when everyone was packing up and leaving when Trump won eight years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 As many have found, it's not always easy for a US citizen of limited means to emigrate. I have a skill that's needed in Canada, but I'm old enough and weird enough that they might not want me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 6 minutes ago, romad1 said: Why would they kill their workforce? No, we are very safe in this work camp. No, I mean if people are worried that Orange Hitler is planning to have people killed, I think the big companies would discourage that and I think they have more influence in our county than political wonks are willing to admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: As many have found, it's not always easy for a US citizen of limited means to emigrate. I have a skill that's needed in Canada, but I'm old enough and weird enough that they might not want me there. I'm not even sure they'd want to hire me here at my age. So, I'm hoping to keep my job for a few more years until I am ready for retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: No, I mean if people are worried that Orange Hitler is planning to have people killed, I think the big companies would discourage that and I think they have more influence in our county than political wonks are willing to admit. nobody in the dictatorship is more powerful than the dictator. He would sick his minions on the company trying to reign in his worst impulses. "Let Trump be Trump and America is free" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ronz Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 28 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I feel like the super wealthy who own this country would not be interested in mass extermination. That wouldn't be good for business. Would it? Mass extermination is very good for business. Yes, some would be kept alive to work in the camps. Zyklon B - the gas used in the gas chambers was made by a company named IG Farben. IG Farben is still in business today but now known as BASF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I'm not even sure they'd want to hire me here at my age. So, I'm hoping to keep my job for a few more years until I am ready for retirement. Good point. It took a while for me to switch jobs (I'm talking years) before I found my current position, and it was because of concerns about my age (okay, they didn't come outright and say that but as a manager I'm trained to reword questions to make them about whether or not a person can physically do the job)-and that was five years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiger337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 19 minutes ago, romad1 said: nobody in the dictatorship is more powerful than the dictator. He would sick his minions on the company trying to reign in his worst impulses. "Let Trump be Trump and America is free" Bezos has more wealth than the entire United States treasury. I think he can find a way to get Trump out of the way if need be. Then again, Mush does too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 56 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I feel like the super wealthy who own this country would not be interested in mass extermination. That wouldn't be good for business. Would it? They seemed perfectly okay with COVID spreading if it meant short term profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 This is the opposite of 2016. In 2016, these congressional level polls around this time were red flags for Clinton. Now, they are red flags for Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Data is a little bit old, but if she's winning Northampton by these numbers, she's winning PA by something similar one would think... Its the bellwether county 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 i’m not over this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: I wouldn't leave the country over politics which is why I am not thinking of leaving. Intellectually, this country is dead to me now. There is little interest among the masses in science or truth or any of the principles which guide my life. However, it is still a good place for me to live my day to day life. At my age, I would only leave if I thought another country would provde a significatly better lifestyle and I don't think that would be that easy to find. I guess I could reconsider when I am comfortably ready to retire. I’m retired and in the place I want to be. As I’ve said recently I expect the country to lean more toward Orbanism than Nazism. I do fear the so called Christian Nationalist since their beliefs are nothing close to the teachings of Christ. I also wonder who’s going to do all those jobs Trump loving white people don’t want to do. Especially since those are the jobs Trumpers are claiming that “nobody wants to work anymore” Edited October 24 by CMRivdogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: This is the opposite of 2016. In 2016, these congressional level polls around this time were red flags for Clinton. Now, they are red flags for Trump. Beat me to it lol. Carbon County numbers are interesting too.... Rural America is a bit of a black box right now, but it suggests a pretty even or slight erosion could happen there too (large MOE tho) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: I also wonder who’s going to do all those jobs Trump loving white people don’t want to do. Especially since those are the jobs Trumpers are claiming that “nobody wants to work anymore” "I don't want to do those jobs, because it's my choice. Everyone else who doesn't want to do those jobs is lazy!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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