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50 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Are we putting more stock into this poll and polling in general or early voting returns or both? What does the early voting data suggest from these PA counties that were highlighted in the poll?

Right now, neither. If Republicans are indeed voting for Harris in enough numbers, I suspect we won't know until Election Day.

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9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I was just at a McDonald’s with these kiosks and there is still someone working the counter. It’s really neat of both worlds because they don’t have to deal with customers. 

Company eliminated cost and stayed profitable. However, most McDonalds in my area close the lobby and operate drive-through only due to not enough employees. I was in Louisville for my Son's travel ball tournment last weekend. The kids had to stand in the drive-through line to order and eat on the curb. It is what it is.

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So did higher wages cause the influx of kiosks or was it that they cant hire enough people?   Both sides were argued by the same poster.

If they cant get enough employees should they pay less?  LOL

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3 minutes ago, romad1 said:

BTW, Quinnipiac refers to the Great Lakes as the Rust Belt in their press release.   Should we refer to upstate NY as the **** belt?  

I would say for the most part upstate NY is not part of the Rust Belt. Western NY (especially cities like Buffalo) I think could be included.

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42 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Remember when people complained that fast food workers were under paid so they demanded raises?

McDonald's Says Goodbye Cashiers, Hello Kiosks

 

You can say the same about things like parking garages. I learned today that Colonial Williamsburg is doing away with free parking at the regions Visitor Center and will be charging $10 for parking, payable thru one of the several parking apps the region is affiliated with.

I can't wait to tell all those folks who just want to walk around in CW it's going to cost them to park, plus try to explain how they have to use the app. 

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31 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Company eliminated cost and stayed profitable. However, most McDonalds in my area close the lobby and operate drive-through only due to not enough employees. I was in Louisville for my Son's travel ball tournment last weekend. The kids had to stand in the drive-through line to order and eat on the curb. It is what it is.

I just want them to occasionally have working shake machines

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13 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

I would say for the most part upstate NY is not part of the Rust Belt. Western NY (especially cities like Buffalo) I think could be included.

Point being that the term Rust Belt is demeaning.   

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54 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Point being that the term Rust Belt is demeaning.   

True.

What's interesting is people from the northern part of the Midwest and those from upstate/western NY are often pitted against one another, even though they have a lot in common. I still roll my eyes whenever I hear somebody refer to people from the Northeast as 'elites' even though most of us are hardworking people struggling to make a living-just like the people in the rest of the country. 

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4 hours ago, LaceyLou said:

I'll admit I've looked into leaving, only problem is I'm not sure where I can go since I'm not rich. Also some of the trends I've seen in Europe, even with my casual look at international news, is cause for concern. 

This is an idea not to be casually dismissed. If America were to fall to Trump and then join forces the Russia-China-North Korea-Iran Axis, the rest of the world wouldn't be able to stand up to it. The remaining NATO countries would either be overrun militarily, or cave to right wing fascism from within or at the point of America's nuclear gun. And Canada would probably be the least safe place to go, due to proximity, and they'd be the first to fall, probably without a shot fired.

In this scenario, the last countries standing might could end up being Australia and New Zealand, only because of their geography, although they could simply collapse economically at that point.

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6 hours ago, ewsieg said:

I'm not a huge fan of endorsements.  I do think pointing out some major republicans voting for Harris is big, but when it comes to celebrities, I generally don't care, regardless of what side they fall on.   Generally I think they are out of touch anyway and it's just word salad that they deliver their endorsement with.

That said, I'd love to see this one seen by more people, well done.

 

Yup, that is a very good take. He hits something I think the Democrats have probably made a mistake in not talking more about - the number of ordinary people Trump has cheated over the years. That would probably have more traction with the working class white male than much of the democratic message focus.

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4 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I feel like the super wealthy who own this country would not be interested in mass extermination.  That wouldn't be good for business.  Would it?  

Wouldn't it? Just seizing the assets of the people being exterminated would be lucrative well beyond just funding the operation. That's exactly how the Germans funded the Holocaust, by seizing the assets of the victims. And since almost everyone's wealth is available only online anymore, it would be easier than ever to simply drain all their accounts electronically.

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1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

Yup, that is a very good take. He hits something I think the Democrats have probably made a mistake in not talking more about - the number of ordinary people Trump has cheated over the years. That would probably have more traction with the working class white male than much of the democratic message focus.

I remember seeing some ads in '16 in which people who had done work for him told stories of not being paid, even though he used the places he'd finished for them that were supposedly 'not up to par.' Unfortunately I don't think they had much, if any, impact. Instead supporters chose to believe that the work had been subpar.

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4 hours ago, romad1 said:

Why would they kill their workforce?  No, we are very safe in this work camp. 

The ultimate end goal of the work camps in Germany was to work the inmates to death, and then replace them on the fly with newly-captured inmates.

You're young enough where they could probably get a few weeks or months out of you, but I'm too old to work anymore, so I'm gone in the first wave. Although you, personally, probably know too much so you might expire with me.

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3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

No, I mean if people are worried that Orange Hitler is planning to have people killed, I think the big companies would discourage that and I think they have more influence in our county than political wonks are willing to admit.  

Big companies in Germany definitely did not discourage that during the Reichstage. Fungible slave labor was really good for their bottom line. I don't see why it would be any different now.

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3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Bezos has more wealth than the entire United States treasury.  I think he can find a way to get Trump out of the way if need be.  Then again, Mush does too.    

And replace him with whom? Who's better for billionaires than Trump?

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