2024 Presidential Election thread

[Motown Bombers]

 

[romad1]

5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Awww… i just hate that it’s a rounding error.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I'm not going to respond to every single point that Tater made (he made some good ones), but with respect to Republican defections, I do think these people are real. I don't know what the percentage looks like, but they could be determinative in some states.

Why would they defect now though? We've know for the last 10 years Trump is all of a bigot, racist, xenophobe, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, misogynist, illiberal, undemocratic, authoritarian, fascist-adjacent (at minimum). If they were going to defect, wouldn't they have had every opportunity to do so in 2020 during that election? I can't help but wonder if Democrats have squeezed all the votes out of disaffected Republicans possible. Maybe not, I'd like to think we haven't.

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Why would they defect now though? We've know for the last 10 years Trump is all of a bigot, racist, xenophobe, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, misogynist, illiberal, undemocratic, authoritarian, fascist-adjacent (at minimum). If they were going to defect, wouldn't they have had every opportunity to do so in 2020 during that election? I can't help but wonder if Democrats have squeezed all the votes out of disaffected Republicans possible. Maybe not, I'd like to think we haven't.

January 6th changed a lot of Republicans. Remember, Liz Cheney voted for Trump in 2020. We had a whole midterm where Republicans voted for democrats. Also, republican women are defecting at a higher rate over Dobbs. 

[CMRivdogs]

16 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

If these folks were really serious they'd cancel their Amazon subscriptions and accounts

[Mr.TaterSalad]

 

Hell of an ad! The Harris team has great local ads in Detroit, Philly, and Pittsburgh.

[mtutiger]

8 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Why would they defect now though? We've know for the last 10 years Trump is all of a bigot, racist, xenophobe, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, misogynist, illiberal, undemocratic, authoritarian, fascist-adjacent (at minimum). If they were going to defect, wouldn't they have had every opportunity to do so in 2020 during that election? 

I mean, this is the first election we have had since Dobbs, for starters... But January 6th, Trump fatigue etc.

People don't always move politically all at once, sometimes it takes time.

[mtutiger]

So... They cut calling Kamala a ****, but left the joke about Puerto Rico in there?

[Motown Bombers]

Harris campaign needs to cut an ad with Dan Campbell. Ford Field is chanting Kamala, and in the locker room, Campbell tosses her the game ball and says you’re good enough for Detroit Kamala Harris. The team then demands a speech and she breaks down the huddle with her closing message. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[gehringer_2]

48 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Why would they defect now though? We've know for the last 10 years Trump is all of a bigot, racist, xenophobe, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, misogynist, illiberal, undemocratic, authoritarian, fascist-adjacent (at minimum). If they were going to defect, wouldn't they have had every opportunity to do so in 2020 during that election? I can't help but wonder if Democrats have squeezed all the votes out of disaffected Republicans possible. Maybe not, I'd like to think we haven't.

because they weren't paying a lot of attention - didn't care about him when he was out of office,  and because this cycle he is (for as much as we complain that it should be more) getting much more negative coverage than 4 yrs ago, which is because if you listen to him he *is* darker and more incoherent, plus as you note Harris has run a mistake free campaign that has left the GOP with nothing like "her emails" to work with.

I mean, as much as it is true that this may be one of the most pre-baked elections in history, that's not to say the campaign is not going to matter at all. And Harris has run a better one than Trump. Also, do not underestimate that inflation has cooled and gas prices are down.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

34 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Harris campaign needs to cut an ad with Dan Campbell. Ford Field is chanting Kamala, and in the locker room, Campbell tosses her the game ball and says you’re good enough for Detroit Kamala Harris. The team then demands a speech and she breaks down the huddle with her closing message. 

I don't what what Campbell's politics are or are not. However, we do know that Calvin is a Democrat. She should do an ad featuring Calvin Johnson and target it towards white men and black men. It should air next Sunday during the Lions game and be targeted online towards these demographics.

[Hongbit]

37 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Harris campaign needs to cut an ad with Dan Campbell. Ford Field is chanting Kamala, and in the locker room, Campbell tosses her the game ball and says you’re good enough for Detroit Kamala Harris. The team then demands a speech and she breaks down the huddle with her closing message. 

I don’t know, nor do I care about his politics but I would be very surprised if Dan Campbell is voting for Kamala.  

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

I don’t know, nor do I care about his politics but I would be very surprised if Dan Campbell is voting for Kamala.  

I would too. He fits the profile of a Trumper. I try not to think about it. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Sheila is a Democrat I know that based on available voting data.

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I would too. He fits the profile of a Trumper. I try not to think about it. 

actually I'd take a bet he isn't for an internet beer, but I don't think we are going to find out. 🏈🏈

[Mr.TaterSalad]

There's another certain singer, from the Detroit area, not named Eminem, whose also a Dem. You can find him down on mainstreet.

[mtutiger]

Campbell is from Glen Rose, TX, which is a very wildly conservative town... but ultimately who knows. People can go against type from time to time.

[gehringer_2]

57 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

There's another certain singer, from the Detroit area, not named Eminem, whose also a Dem. You can find him down on mainstreet.

actually the "Main Street" in question was Ypsilanti IIRC, but close enough.

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Campbell is from Glen Rose, TX, which is a very wildly conservative town... but ultimately who knows. People can go against type from time to time.

Also went to Texas A&M which is a known conservative school, made some anti-gay remarks in the past, and is a man's man football guy. I could see him being a Never Trumper, but I would be fairly surprised if he wasn't a Republican at some point. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[romad1]

I guess she has had enough of Trump

SHe has a tweet below this saying she is "marked safe from ex-president felon" so she definitely means she voted for Harris.

[romad1]

 

[Tiger337]

7 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I’ve literally been called a fanatic on here because I’ve explicitly called out polls. 

i read that the Montana is gettng really close.  

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

i read that the Montana is gettng really close.  

Awesome. Tester has a shot then.