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2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

A guy who bankrupted casinos no less. A guy who has stuffed multiple contractors and failed to pay up when he owes the bill too.

his business is a criminal organization.  Literally.  His CFO is in prison b/c he won't flip on Trump. 

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32 minutes ago, Kacie said:

The House and Mike Johnson are my concern...Trying to get it to the courts.  Will they succeed in the long run?  Probably not.  But it just sets up another cycle of the "stolen" election and sowing doubt, inciting violence and more hate.  

Worth noting it will be the new congress certifying. 

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@Hongbit has been correct on the BLS stuff. The numbers have been messed up for a long time, but have gotten worse over time. They know the numbers, but who is "they?" Wall Street does, and an entire industry of of independent analysts who drill into the numbers to find what they might - and it's not pretty. Given to us by the BLS. But we get the headline numbers from Bubblevision who's job is to pump up the market. 10,000 people get laid off and the stock goes up - HEY! Ain't this great?

No president tells the Fed what to do. Bankers run the world, and the Fed. As so accurately said years ago by a guy not popular here, but one of the best quotes ever;

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The world’s most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.

The rest is bread and circuses
 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

This is not good for Trump at all. 

 

If there is one state that might flip unexpectedly, I would most expect it to be Ohio, even though it might be an even bigger lift than say FLA. The energy of the woman's vote in 2022 plus the across the board anger at the state GOP for trying to kill Ohio's referendum rules to prevent the abortion vote are the kind of thing that may stick in the craw of the average hard headed Ohioan and create the a quiet undercurrent of electoral shift that polling is going to miss. 

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51 minutes ago, oblong said:

Worth noting it will be the new congress certifying. 

Which is why you’ve got to hope that “new” (& existing) voters got the message that they not only need to pull the lever for the Democratic candidate for President, but to PLEASE not leave that voting booth without voting for all the congressional or Senate Democrats running this elect cycle, too.

Please DON’T neglect to vote for those other candidates.

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I voted for all D on my ballot except for Rashida.  For that one I went Green Party. Not voting for a Republican for a very long except for extreme circumstances. In uncontested races I left it blank. Other races for judges I left blank too.  

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“And so the former president, who in his first month in office signed an executive order banning travel from several Muslim-majority countries, made an improbable plea: “I need every Muslim American in Michigan to get the hell out and vote.””

https://x.com/juliezebrak/status/1852518096977969308?s=61&t=akgNyUltuSb7RN54lulxTw

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3 hours ago, chasfh said:

They are definitely different things. One involves the actual peaceful transfer of power, and the other actually doesn't. 

of course. I didn't get very accurately to what I meant in my post. I don't see any actual threat to the transfer occurring this time because Biden won't be sitting on his arse if maga decides to act up in DC or anywhere else. So what I meant to say is that the transfer isn't going to be threatened (i.e. the process in DC is going to take place without interruption="peacefully") regardless of whether many, a few, or no cells of maga violence occur anywhere in the country or even DC. They will not be allowed to interrupt the process.

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5 hours ago, LaceyLou said:

Even waterfront may not be a solid choice. Erosion is a big issue, and some waterfront areas are already being abandoned by insurance companies (due to both erosion and big hits from recent weather events).

True, but waterfront in MI is ~700 ft above sea-level! :classic_biggrin:

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9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Trump is having his most unhinged rally yet.

 

Frontal lobe supervisory judgment and inhibition function turning to mush. At the rate his personality is deconstructing Vance would be be in the Oval Office in 12 months - tops, assuming he didn't manage to set off  WW3 first.

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