2024 Presidential Election thread

[CMRivdogs]

Why in the world would a Virginia A-G look into a California transaction. Maybe he should look into his own Governor's business dealings

 

[romad1]

http/x.com/lukezim/status/1685279143776Forgot all about this meme

[oblong]

35 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Looks like we have a real MAGA in the ranks. 

She wants it to come down to Warren so she can get attention and perhaps try a few things. In the end it will fail but could be good for her future if she gets to be on Fox News a lot. 
 

[CMRivdogs]

Just a reminder from Winston Churchill. 
 

 

[romad1]

SNL sketch was fantastic

[romad1]

24 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Just a reminder from Winston Churchill. 
 

 

He was so damn right.  There was a reason the leftists like George Orwell who could see the danger of Stalin and Hitler could see how much they needed Churchill.

[romad1]

Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell really thought this was the thing too

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Kyle Garner

 

@KyleGarnerMO

 

My biggest takeaway from the Iowa poll: women 65+, the ones who lived in America before Roe, before women could even have their own bank accounts, know exactly what Trump and Republicans are promising. They know the stakes and they're going 2:1 for Harris.

https://x.com/KyleGarnerMO/status/1852860867668480188

[CMRivdogs]

Is this verse in the Trump Bible?
 

Good to see Musk not censoring today

[Motown Bombers]

56 minutes ago, oblong said:

She wants it to come down to Warren so she can get attention and perhaps try a few things. In the end it will fail but could be good for her future if she gets to be on Fox News a lot. 
 

People have complained it was taking awhile to receive their ballots and taking awhile to mark it as received. She was hesitant to add drop boxes, and the city only has one early voting site in the non black area of the city. 

[mtutiger]

Who could have possibly predicted? lol

[LaceyLou]

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Well   A - that should be plastered in ads all over the telly in these last 2 days

B - He'll probably roll back child labor laws if given the chance like that troll in Arkansas did. 

That, and all of the cases of his campaign not paying for rally venues. How on earth has that mostly fallen under the radar? His stiffing people is the rule, not the exception.

[mtutiger]

This thread is insane.... like, we spent months and months having the NYT put out writeups definitively declaring what was or wasn't happening in the electorate, only to end up with this mishmash of hedges and caveats?

[Motown Bombers]

I've given up on the Nates. 

[CMRivdogs]

 

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I've given up on the Nates. 

It really does kinda feel like J. Ann Selzer rolled a metaphorical grenade into the discourse and has people second guessing their assumptions, doesn't it?

We'll find out whose right in a couple of days, I guess....

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

If Selzer is, in fact, onto something that is being missed more broadly, there's gonna need to be a discussion within the polling / political media world about the constant underplaying of the abortion issue. Because this would be the third November in a row where people end up surprised at how much it matters.

Edited November 3, 2024 by mtutiger

[LaceyLou]

3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

Iowa has also had a lot of trouble attracting doctors in general, but especially OBGYNs. This isn't just because of the abortion ban, of course, but it certainly doesn't help.

This is one issue which really needs to be addressed, and soon-hospitals are closing, especially in rural areas but also in poorer urban neighborhoods. Where I grew up the nearest hospital was 30-45 minutes away, and if that closed, the next nearest one was even farther away. 

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

If Selzer is, in fact, onto something that is being missed more broadly, there's gonna need to be a discussion within the polling / political media world about the constant underplaying of the abortion issue. Because this would be the third November in a row where people end up surprised at how much it matters.

When we keep hearing from pundits about polls saying people feel they are worse off now than 4 years, it's automatically assumed it's economical, but I'm betting a lot are saying that because of abortion. 

[romad1]

currently in Florida where you won't see much besides commercials against the abortion ban.   The only other ad i saw was an anti-Marijuana legalization ad which implied that it would be bad for the amusement parks.

[MichiganCardinal]

I've made several remarks about how she is running a flawless campaign. This continues that trajectory. She doesn't do much here, but it's endearing, nice, and feels real. In a comparison to Trump, people will just like that she's smiling. It's a winning appearance.

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[oblong]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

People have complained it was taking awhile to receive their ballots and taking awhile to mark it as received. She was hesitant to add drop boxes, and the city only has one early voting site in the non black area of the city. 

Another benefit is the narrative will switch to “democrat” run states being incompetent. 

[oblong]

10 minutes ago, romad1 said:

currently in Florida where you won't see much besides commercials against the abortion ban.   The only other ad i saw was an anti-Marijuana legalization ad which implied that it would be bad for the amusement parks.

In TN I saw Blackburn ads where she threw “China” on the floor in an effort to show she will fight China  

 

[oblong]

44 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

This thread is insane.... like, we spent months and months having the NYT put out writeups definitively declaring what was or wasn't happening in the electorate, only to end up with this mishmash of hedges and caveats?

“We don’t know what we’re doing” is a hell of a way to make a living. 

[CMRivdogs]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-11-03/republicans-ignore-trump-on-the-economy

Opinion

Matthew Yglesias, Columnist

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In the closing days of the presidential campaign, Donald Trump’s allies suddenly have a new message: The US needs sharp, immediate and ill-defined spending cuts.

Elon Musk, who’s been talking about immigration for more than a year, now says he’s going to oversee $2 trillion in reductions. That’s a third of the federal budget, so you’d think there might be some kind of plan for what this involves, but all Musk would say last week is that “temporary hardship” will be involved. What kind of hardship? Well, House Speaker Michael Johnson let it be known last week that “health care reform’s going to be a big part of the agenda”if Trump wins, including a “very aggressive” attempt to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Hedge fund billionaire John Paulson, a Trump supporter, also weighed in last week about the need for steep cuts.

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All of this amounts to an implicit admission that Trump’s policy agenda is an unworkable fraud, and that virtually everything he and his team have said or done over the course of the campaign has been about avoiding discussion of the concrete stakes at issue.

Read the entire piece

 

[mtutiger]

Didn't even think about it, but tariffs could be a factor in his apparent weakness in the plains states too... 

Tariffs are basically poison for farmers across the cornbelt