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1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

The couple times I've met he seems like a nice guy. Helps out a lot around her and her elderly parents houses. He seems to hold a lot of what I assume are traditional Hispanic values especially around the household duties of men and women.

If I disowned family members who disagreed with me politically, family gatherings would be boring. We don't discuss politics but some branches thrive on chaos

My brother is a huge MAGA fan. Luckily, he lives in Pennsylvania and I live in Metro Detroit. I <think> he saw my Twitter page though, he hadn't talked to me in a while. Of course, we haven't discussed politics in years...

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5 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot" She was singing about the environment since the 60's. Yeah, nobody listened...

My favorite was the Ecology Song. Or was it Mercy, Mercy, Me?

 

ETA: And people did listen for a while, and passed legislation to help with clean air and water with good results. 

Unfortunately, people have either forgotten, or never knew about rivers catching fire, air quality alerts, and generally how dirty many of our cities were, and how important it is to keep the regulations to maintain our cleaner, healthier, environment. Even now it's unacceptable that we keep hearing about lead contaminated water in places-and yet it could get even worse.

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1 hour ago, LaceyLou said:

Somehow, if and when this era passes we're all going to have to try our best to come back together after being driven apart by all of this rhetoric. When this happens I don't know, and will depend on what happens on Tuesday.

I can only say it won't be easy, and all the junk 'news' out there might make it impossible. I hope not. 

I was reminiscing the other day about elections like 1976, when I was not going to be particularly unhappy in the morning whichever guy won. Good times.....

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This is the kind of stuff that the sitting Democratic President & his VP should have been saying every single day since Jan 6th till now. Instead Trump was able to rehabilitate himself over the years while Dems avoided saying much about him and taking some mythical ‘high ground’.

Obama on Trump: Who cannot understand how an NBA superstar can be both Greek and Black… Who spreads ridiculous fantasies that Haitians are eating people’s pets. Who just this past week arranged for one of his supporters to tell jokes about Black people eating watermelon and Puerto Rico being an island of garbage right there on stage at Madison Square Garden. Do you that is someone who will look out for you?

 

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48 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

I'm a bad person, because I find myself hoping that when all is said and done, Mush finds himself in a position similar to Giuliani's current position.  I actually think I dislike him even more than I dislike Drumpf.

Musk sucks and I suspect that, in a Trump presidency, he could become the shadow president once Trump can no longer function which could be fairly soon.  

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1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

Musk sucks and I suspect that, in a Trump presidency, he could become the shadow president once Trump can no longer function which could be fairly soon.  

The combination of Vance and Musk may be scarier than Trump. Then the possibility of throwing RFKjr into the mix.

Almost enough to throw me off my meds

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48 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I was reminiscing the other day about elections like 1976, when I was not going to be particularly unhappy in the morning whichever guy won. Good times.....

I used to love everything about elections-from watching the debates to watching the conventions, right up to watching the returns come in on Election Day. This was true even when the results were different from what I had hoped. Now I think I'll have to stay offline for the next few days, except for some things I absolutely have to do online.

'76 was the first election I was allowed to stay up and watch-I was 9. I vaguely wanted Carter to win but felt like Ford was also fine.

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2 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

I used to love everything about elections-from watching the debates to watching the conventions, right up to watching the returns come in on Election Day. This was true even when the results were different from what I had hoped. Now I think I'll have to stay offline for the next few days, except for some things I absolutely have to do online.

'76 was the first election I was allowed to stay up and watch-I was 9. I vaguely wanted Carter to win but felt like Ford was also fine.

As a 14 year old, I didn't really care who won, but I thought Carter had a fake smile.  As it turned out, he was probably more real than any President in my lifetime.  

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19 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Only the 9th commandment (the one about lying) what about the other nine he's broken

 

I have no idea what he's trying to say in that 'closing argument.' Is he saying that the glass is protecting him, or that he wants people to shoot through it to get the press? I honestly can't tell.

Good grief.

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3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Both Biden and Harris needed to be saying this the last several months.

 

 

 

 

 

I understand what you are saying, but this is way more effective coming from Obama (who hasn't been in office since Jan 2017)...

Biden tried variations of this when he was still in the race, but it didn't work because he's currently in office, and it comes across as defensive. Don't have that problem with O doing it.

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13 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

As a 14 year old, I didn't really care who won, but I thought Carter had a fake smile.  As it turned out, he was probably more real than any President in my lifetime.  

It's always fun to look back and speculate. If Ford wins that election does he have any better handle on the economy? Does he make a different appointment to the Fed than William Miller, one who starts the battle against inflation sooner? If he does he gets re-elected in 1980, no Ronald Reagan, and who knows where we all would be? And where does the right wing go if the Ford wing of the GOP keeps them shut out for another cycle or two? The stakes of an election may not seem high at all at the time, but you never know!

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10 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It's always fun to look back and speculate. If Ford wins that election does he have any better handle on the economy? Does he make a different appointment to the Fed than William Miller, one who starts the battle against inflation sooner? If he does he gets re-elected in 1980, no Ronald Reagan, and who knows where we all would be? And where does the right wing go if the Ford wing of the GOP keeps them shut out for another cycle or two? The stakes of an election may not seem high at all at the time, but you never know!

I wouldn’t rule out Reagan challenging Ford again in ‘80 especially if things stayed sour for Ford as they did Carter. “See, I told you so”.   But who would the D’s have run?  I’m not familiar with the bench at that time. 

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