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5 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

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If Trump is on track to lose, he has moreincentive to declare victory tomorrow night. Work backwards from Trump’s perspective: He needs to keep his supporters bound to him and he wants to continue to own the Republican party.¹

Having spent the previous four years insisting that he won in 2020 and that he cannot lose in 2024 unless he is cheated again, conceding defeat would be taken by his supporters as a personal betrayal. So he can’t do that.

Further, he has already primed his supporters to expect a stolen election after they have spent the last year being utterly confident that Trump would win. At the Madison Square Garden rally, Tucker Carlson even hung a number on Harris’s expected vote total, saying that no one should believe that she could get 85 million votes.

So if the early results suggest that Harris is headed toward probable victory, I would expect Trump to come out with accusations of fraud and assertions that he won sooner rather than later.

Also, Trump has to set a party line early, before any elected Republicans admit that Harris won. If Trump gets out early, then MAGA-loyal politicians will run with it, putting pressure on other Republicans down the line to either support the Big Lie 2.0 or stay silent. 

 

The US is not a banana republic quite yet. Trump doesn't control enough of the media. If he starts claiming victory before any non-Fox media call it it's not going to be taken seriously He'd literally have to come out and incite to riot to try to stop the counting to make a impact, and I don't see that working even if he tried. And if he did Biden would be glad to have him arrested. Plus the group of hard core dead enders that were most likely to have responded are still in jail over 1/6.

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4 hours ago, LaceyLou said:

Most of the ads here seem to be aimed at NH.

If nothing else, we need to reform the electoral college so we can spread the anxiety more equally.

Yes, If I hear one more Ayotte/Craig commercial, I'll scream.  

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If this is a free and fair election, I have pretty high confidence Kamala beats Trump.

My fear is that one of the lawsuits makes its way to the Supreme Court and they find a way to install him in the White House regardless of the vote—or least make a ruling to that effect, which might lead to something like a collapse of the government, because such a ruling would require full compliance with the ruling by the system for it to work, and that might not be forthcoming, and if that were to happen, then it’s all hell all the time.

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