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1 minute ago, Hongbit said:

Another thing this election has changed for the future will be the acceptance of online betting markets as a reliable predictor.  

These markets have been calling this for over a year with barely any wavering.   Even when the polls were saying Harris,  the betting line may have moved but it never flipped from Trump.   

I’m not sure they will replace polling as the main predictor but they are clearly no longer an afterthought anymore. 

Oh, just always bet on the most hate-filled and bigoted candidate.  

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As a person who lives in a state that tends to pay more to the federal government than it receives back in services, I have to ask the people (mostly in red states) who benefit: Does this mean you don't want our money any more? And if that's the case, can we have the money we've already sent back?

I hate that I'm thinking this way. That said, that's what they voted for.

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Just now, LaceyLou said:

As a person who lives in a state that tends to pay more to the federal government than it receives back in services, I have to ask the people (mostly in red states) who benefit: Does this mean you don't want our money any more? And if that's the case, can we have the money we've already sent back?

I hate that I'm thinking this way. That said, that's what they voted for.

Yes, all those Anti-Socialsm people who take disability (when they can work), or welfare or unemployment.     Send back that stimulus money or you're a fraud.  

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Just now, Motor City Sonics said:

Yes, all those Anti-Socialsm people who take disability (when they can work), or welfare or unemployment.     Send back that stimulus money or you're a fraud.  

In all seriousness, I've known people who think they get disability etc. is because they pray for it. 

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3 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Add this to the list of voting segments that just don’t make sense.   He’s the more pro-Israel candidate.    

But ultimately, the shift in rural areas and stagnation in the suburbs/exurbs are what did her in more than anything else, at least in Michigan. 

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1 minute ago, Hongbit said:

Add this to the list of voting segments that just don’t make sense.   He’s the more pro-Israel candidate.    

Well then why has Anti-Semitic attacks gone through the roof since he announced his candidacy in 2015?        He was already blaming Jews if he lost.      

Results would not have been the same with a Male candidate 

 

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1 minute ago, LaceyLou said:

In all seriousness, I've known people who think they get disability etc. is because they pray for it. 

I know a family member who complains about Socialism, but he's been collecting Disability for more than 20 years,  but builds decks on the side.    I'm gonna rat him out now.   

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6 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Add this to the list of voting segments that just don’t make sense.   He’s the more pro-Israel candidate.    

I think this one is explained by traditional values.

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I think the future of Gaza Strip, West Bank and maybe parts of Lebanon over the next few years will be further annexation by Israel , establishment of a DMZ, and then Bibi will move settlers in.

Trump branded beach front condos being built in Gaza is not that far fetched

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7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Welp—Thanksgivings all around the country are gonna be interesting.

Not in our family.  The only Trumper in our family cheated on his wife (my neice) and now shes getting a divorce.  Typical MAGA!  My whole family is now either anti-Trump or disinterested.    

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That said, I have to make plans. I'd already decided to become more active in transit and housing groups, but looks like my plan to work with FEMA won't be happening. 

I don't know how much I can do, but I'd like to see if I can preserve some of the sense of empathy and services that exist in my state.

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Just now, LaceyLou said:

That said, I have to make plans. I'd already decided to become more active in transit and housing groups, but looks like my plan to work with FEMA won't be happening. 

I don't know how much I can do, but I'd like to see if I can preserve some of the sense of empathy and services that exist in my state.

Won't be anymore FEMA in a few years.    You're on your own.  (States that all voted for him too). 

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1 minute ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Welp, once again.  They'll screw up the economy and a Democrat will come in after and straighten it out, but not fast enough and we'll go right back to it.  

As soon as Drumpf takes office, he will suddenly be given credit for how good the economy is, and how much inflation is slowing down. 

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Just now, Hongbit said:

The Muslim lack of respect for women outweighed the plight of the Palestinians?   That actually makes some sense.  

 

1 minute ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Yes, those traditional values.  The tradition of always putting men in charge and watching them screw it all up.     I do think we'd be better off with more women running the world.   

I think so but also other cultural issues such as gay marriage, etc.

In that sense theyre like many voters throughout the USA who just typically deemphasize foreign policy and issues in their voting

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