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chasfh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I guess by dint of the transitive properties, Tigeraholic is now the president of the political forum. At least tell us at Mexico is paying for the digital wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Nah, I know folks are upset. Only posters who I don't really care how they feel are Romad1 and Motownbombers they have been pretty ignorant towards me. Rom especially, being a public servant and passing bad info like it was the gospel really bugged me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 My unsolicited prediction... trump will come to some sort of agreement that includes OPEC raising their production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 32 minutes ago, chasfh said: I'm actually concerned that vaccines will be, if not outlawed outright, then slow-walked via government regulation in a way that make them difficult-to-impossible to get. Big Pharma wouldn't like that. I think we'll be OK on that front. The danger is that more people will be free to not get vaccinated which will put more people in the hospital and they could also put those who are not able to get vaccines due to a health problem in danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Big Pharma wouldn't like that. I think we'll be OK on that front. The danger is that more people will be free to not get vaccinated which will put more people in the hospital and they could also put those who are not able to get vaccines due to a health problem in danger. The next pandemic will kill even more people than the last one did. Many more. And since pre-existing conditions will not be covered by insurance (those people will have already been dropped from coverage), they’ll die even faster. So, I guess that’s good news for the younger group of people in the country. Because for sure they’ll kill off the 55+ age group at a pretty fast clip. After all, as we know, healthcare is not right. So, drop dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Congratulations to President of the planet Putin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 22 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Nah, I know folks are upset. Only posters who I don't really care how they feel are Romad1 and Motownbombers they have been pretty ignorant towards me. Rom especially, being a public servant and passing bad info like it was the gospel really bugged me. What does ignorant to you even mean? You seemed to be pro Biden, and then when the black woman became the nominee, you started dabbling in transphobia and embracing MAGA. Congrats a man won't be boxing women in Algeria, which never happened in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I am only throwing this out there, but given how many accusations from the maga folks have ended up being admissions, what are the odds they hacked into the voting machines and how could that be proven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, Edman85 said: I am only throwing this out there, but given how many accusations from the maga folks have ended up being admissions, what are the odds they hacked into the voting machines and how could that be proven? Possible in 2024, probable in 2028 and beyond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, Edman85 said: I am only throwing this out there, but given how many accusations from the maga folks have ended up being admissions, what are the odds they hacked into the voting machines and how could that be proven? As it stands, she has 15 million fewer votes than Biden. She underperformed blue states and red states alike. I feel like if there was hacking, it would have been isolated to the swing states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 35 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: What does ignorant to you even mean? You seemed to be pro Biden, and then when the black woman became the nominee, you started dabbling in transphobia and embracing MAGA. Congrats a man won't be boxing women in Algeria, which never happened in the first place. Tons of assumptions there. Maybe I was just over performing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 The hacking was done to their brains by Russian propaganda. It was supposed to be the information age but misinformation was weaponized instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Can someone please explain this graph? You wonder why republicans did not trust the 2020 results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 My one observation is that if somebody switches from Biden to Drumpf, or from Sanders to Drumpf after their 'preferred' candidate is eliminated or drops out, then that person wasn't supporting the original candidate's positions. I leave it up to you to determine what the real reason or reasons might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I'm checking out for awhile. It's not worth it for my mental health and the time consuming distractions. Presidential history was a hobby of mine but that was ruined now because it's not what it used to be. I feel guilty because I'm pretty sure I'll be ok. It's the vulnerable people I worry about. I gave up at 11 pm last night, put on an episode of Breaking Bad (My sis in law is watching for the first time so I am watching in parallel so we can discuss via text), went to bed, got up at 5 to get my son off to school, purposely avoided the TV and my phone so as to not know what happened, went for a walk, started up my laptop after being off since Friday at 5:30, and at 5:45 finally peeked to confirm what i knew. Then I had a meeting at 6, followed by more meetings.... so I have been distracted today. America was supposed to be exceptional but it's not. It's just like any other country. I know the rest of the world laughs at the sentiment that we think we're special but for the most part we've been there for others when they needed help. Now we won't be doing that and many people in our country will feel the persecution we see elsewhere and that many here felt 60+ years ago. I tried. We tried. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) If you assume from the drop in D votes for Harris that at least some % of Biden voters moved to Trump and Trump still got fewer votes than in 20, that means the fall off in maga land evidenced in the half empty rallies and the number of GOPer that came out for Harris was real. So the election was there for the taking but the Dems lost 20M Biden voters. Hard to fathom. The fear on the blue side was always that the Dems could duplicate 2020 but somehow Trump could win by energizing more white guys to come out, but that does not appear to be what happened at all. Most straight up conclusion is that Obama's democratic coalition had a lot more people who won't vote for a woman than won't vote for a POC. More misogynists than racists. I guess there is a certain logic to that on the blue side but it's still disappointing Edited November 6 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 45 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: What does ignorant to you even mean? You seemed to be pro Biden, and then when the black woman became the nominee, you started dabbling in transphobia and embracing MAGA. Congrats a man won't be boxing women in Algeria, which never happened in the first place. You also called me a Natzi so there it that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, Tigeraholic1 said: You also called me a Natzi so there it that too. I mean, you are? You voted for the **** your feelings guy. You sure have a lot of feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: If you assume from the drop in D votes for Harris that a good number of Biden voters moved to Trump and Trump still got fewer votes than in 20, that means the fall off in maga land evidenced in the half empty rallies and the number of GOPer that came out for Harris was real. So the election was there for the taking but the Dems lost 20M Biden voters. Hard to fathom. It’s just really bizarre. The momentum from the 2022 blue wave, insanely long lines in big cities like Detroit and Philly, abortion, etc. I’m having trouble making sense that Harris had 15-20 million fewer votes with the everything at stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: It’s just really bizarre. The momentum from the 2022 blue wave, insanely long lines in big cities like Detroit and Philly, abortion, etc. I’m having trouble making sense that Harris had 15-20 million fewer votes with the everything at stake. I don't know if black and Hispanic men made up 20M of the 2020 vote, but the pre-election polling was that there is where at least a chunk of the weakness was. Makes you think the 1st woman president is going to have to be a Republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: It’s just really bizarre. The momentum from the 2022 blue wave, insanely long lines in big cities like Detroit and Philly, abortion, etc. I’m having trouble making sense that Harris had 15-20 million fewer votes with the everything at stake. It seems like the Haley Republicans for Harris was a myth. This goes back to the old saying, Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love. Republicans consistently fell in line with Trump. Democrats through Biden overboard at the first hint of trouble. Harris basically fell back to Clinton and 2012 Obama level support and Trump held onto his increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I mean, you are? You voted for the **** your feelings guy. You sure have a lot of feelings. My feelings are fine, they may even be over performing today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, Motown Bombers said: It seems like the Haley Republicans for Harris was a myth. This goes back to the old saying, Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love. Republicans consistently fell in line with Trump. Democrats through Biden overboard at the first hint of trouble. Harris basically fell back to Clinton and 2012 Obama level support and Trump held onto his increases. So aside from never nominating another woman, the Dems apparently need to find a way to effect a culture shift in the coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, gehringer_2 said: So aside from never nominating another woman, the Dems apparently need to find a way to effect a culture shift in the coalition. I would look to Fetterman. Left wing populist who is not afraid to go toe to toe on culture issues and has support with the white working class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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