1776 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, LaceyLou said: I think she could have a future at a university. I suspect she'll go home to California and have a better life than a lot of the people who wouldn't vote for her will ever have. I’ll bet she’d have a better life than most people that voted FOR her as well. 😉 Edited November 6 by 1776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) people are not as informed as we think or hope https://x.com/atrupar/status/1854254652000268331 Edited November 6 by RatkoVarda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 1776 said: I’ll bet she’d have a better life than most people that voted FOR her as well. 😉 The difference is we'll be happy for her. ETA: And I actually have a good life, one that according to JD is one that I shouldn't have been able to choose. Edited November 6 by LaceyLou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 11 minutes ago, 1776 said: I voted for a gay candidate for president, Chase Oliver of the Libertarian Party. I’d vote for him again tomorrow. President Trump thanks you very much for your vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, antrat said: "Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia" Man, it sure wasn't science fiction Orwell was writing here, was it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 30 minutes ago, Hongbit said: I felt this way yesterday but I don’t today. I am also understanding that my views and morals are not in line with the majority of Americans anymore. They probably never were. For a long time, people have been trained to keep their bigotry to themselves. Not anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 16 minutes ago, Kacie said: Ha, Larry DeWulf? He's still practicing, believe it or not. Still uses paper charts with scribbled notes, doesn't have digital xrays or even a computer in his office. Like a blast from the past. wow yes that was him his kid was on the radio for a lil while too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Hongbit said: President Trump thanks you very much for your vote. It would only be a vote for Trump if he actually voted for Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 33 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: And he also says that there are whole departments of the FDA that need to be eliminated. On the one hand, I do agree that a lot of ingredients used in foods should be banned like they are in Europe, but gutting the FDA is NOT the way to make food safer. Whatever they are, those are almost certainly NOT the ingredients he will get banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 32 minutes ago, pfife said: I actually had a dentist in brighton mi that had anti flouride propaganda hanging on the walls in the office Well, that makes a hell of a lot of sense, doesn't it? Yes, I am completely serious about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 At least the next four years are going to be the best in American history because Trump media is going to tell us so. The Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth with a capital T. Putin can focus his propaganda machine on Europe now and the fascists won't have to fire a shot. Most of us will be too busy trying to survive to even notice. Welcome to Russia 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 10 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: people are not as informed as we think or hope https://x.com/atrupar/status/1854254652000268331 https://x.com/voxrob/status/1854255631156298095 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, Hongbit said: President Trump thanks you very much for your vote. He wasn't stealing a vote from Harris so he could vote Libertarian, so it's at worst a wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 17 minutes ago, 1776 said: I voted for a gay candidate for president, Chase Oliver of the Libertarian Party. I’d vote for him again tomorrow. I read Oliver's profile a few weeks ago. You never know what you'll get with a Libertarian. Some of them are horrible people, but others are reasonable. Oliver sounded pretty reasonable. I was wondering whether a gay man would be a good alternative for a conservative who didn't like Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: The Trump, the whole Trump and nothing but the Trump with a capital T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: https://x.com/voxrob/status/1854255631156298095 Oh, to be young and naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Wasn't there a pitcher on the Tigers name Chase Oliver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I read Oliver's profile a few weeks ago. You never know what you'll get with a Libertarian. Some of them are horrible people, but others are reasonable. Oliver sounded pretty reasonable. I was wondering whether a gay man would be a good alternative for a conservative who didn't like Trump. So like every other political party since the dawn of time. Some bad members, some not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaceyLou Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 12 minutes ago, chasfh said: Whatever they are, those are almost certainly NOT the ingredients he will get banned. Of course not. Any kind of bans and regulations would be bad for business! If RFK actually believes that Drumpf is concerned about the health of the American people, then he's in for a bumpy ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, Kacie said: Well, we won't have to worry about the hispanic vote in 4 years. Again, I feel like this was a lack of planning and foresight on behalf of the Democrats. It was thought all along that Biden was just the gap one term president. But they had no plan, no heir apparent. Gotta say, was never a fan of Kamala as VP. Got too late a start with out a theme or a defining identity other than not Trump. They did a poor job of addressing the "Kamala wants to pay for prisoners sex changes" I don't know as though they addressed it at all? Same with the border. While most of what the Trump turds said are lies, because of the media, it has to be addressed. I thought the abortion thing was WAY overplayed. A big issue, yes. But they didn't address the economy in any meaningful way. People still are unaware the deficits rise under Rs and go down under Ds. Their marketing still sucks. But this has been years in the making. Once we lost the media, the emergence of the echo chamber social media, podcasts, Russian interference, couldn't put the toothpaste back in the tube. I don't think the Democrats can nominate anyone other than a younger white man next time. They need to start early and figure something out. Truthfully, I think once Trump dies, the movement starts to fade. I can't think of any young Republicans that anyone is fired up about. They even hate JD Vance. Hopefully there are still elections to be had. The Dems lost with Hillary and decided it was a fluke rather than a property of their electorate, so Biden doubled down with Harris. If you believe that leadership means getting out in front of your public and bringing it along, that was not necessarily a mistake ethically even if it may have turned out to be tactically. But the point has been made that if that was the plan then Biden had to give Harris at least as much or more profile in his admin that Obama gave Biden, and it was never even close. One can also argue that if it was foreseen that a win was so critical in '24 and the Dems were absolutely set on a woman, then pick a white woman and least save your self that half of the battle. In any case, there are a lot of way to slice and dice this history on the continuum of what should have been done in 2020 that cast the die for '24. But the other factor is that I think a lot of people thought Trump would either have gone away to jail or at least gone away instead of holding his grip on GOP. Everybody needs to suck it up, go find someplace to use your efforts help build US civil society for the next few years and make a contribution to holding it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 16 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: It would only be a vote for Trump if he actually voted for Trump. 8 minutes ago, chasfh said: He wasn't stealing a vote from Harris so he could vote Libertarian, so it's at worst a wash. I’d agree in a normal election where you have two candidates with differing world views. This was not a normal election. This was a vote against hate and for the immediate future of our democracy. You either voted for the party that had a chance to defeat Trump or you accepted it and were ok if he won. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Time for the reaping. You want to get rid of Obama care? Watch your self-employed entrepreneurial class who voted for you because “he’s a businessman like me“ collapse and go out of business or lose their homes to medical bills they now can’t afford. You want to deport all the migrants? Knock yourself out and watch the price of produce. No vaccinations? Watch your kids die. No education? Watch what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: The Dems lost with Hillary and decided it was a fluke rather than a property of their electorate, so Biden doubled down with Harris. If you believe that leadership means getting out in front of your public and bringing it along, that was not necessarily a mistake ethically even if it may have turned out to be tactically. But the point has been made that if that was the plan then Biden had to give Harris at least as much or more profile in his admin that Obama gave Biden, and it was never even close. One can also argue that if it was foreseen that a win was so critical in '24 and the Dems were absolutely set on a woman, then pick a white woman and least save your self that half of the battle. In any case, there are a lot of way to slice and dice this history on the continuum of what should have been done in 2020 that cast the die for '24. But the other factor is that I think a lot of people thought Trump would either have gone away to jail or at least gone away instead of holding his grip on GOP. Everybody needs to suck it up, go find someplace to use your efforts help build US civil society for the next few years and make a contribution to holding it together. They should have let Biden run in 2016 instead of Obama and his bros forcing Biden to stand down and clear the way for Hillary. Biden likely wins in 2016 and Trump goes back to being a C rate celebrity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: They should have let Biden run in 2016 instead of Obama and his bros forcing Biden to stand down and clear the way for Hillary. Biden likely wins in 2016 and Trump goes back to being a C rate celebrity. Yup. But a little like Nixon in '68, the Clintons had a lot of chits they could call in. The fact is that both parties have too narrow a nominating base and that can lead to candidates that generate a lot more energy in the party than in the general public. If someone knows the answer to that, they can go make a lot of money consulting on the beltway. Edited November 6 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, 1776 said: Additionally, and this never made sense, why did the party pick the least successful primary challenger in 2020 to be the VP candidate? She made zero traction on the campaign trail and bailed. So who thought bringing her in as VP was a smart choice? And then she does nothing for four years. You could make a legitimate argument that she was set up to fail. I will always believe that Harris was an Obama pick, fwiw. Bad move on whoever was responsible. It was payback to Jim Clyburn who was instrumental in Biden's nomination in 2020. It was during the primaries that Bided vowed to put a black woman on the ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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