2024 Presidential Election thread

[pfife]

Like Magalolic showing up here after the election conveniently

[romad1]

how dare they!?

https://x.com/natashabertrand/status/1854982978994139389?s=46&t=76Y1aNflZsD8yrwQrvLC2g

 

Edited November 8, 2024 by romad1

[Tigeraholic1]

43 minutes ago, pfife said:

Super Compelling evidence

FYI everything that happens now happens after the election 

Assassination attempts of presidential candidates used to be a big deal. 

[Tigeraholic1]

16 minutes ago, romad1 said:

how dare they!?

https://x.com/natashabertrand/status/1854982978994139389?s=46&t=76Y1aNflZsD8yrwQrvLC2g

 

Uh oh, your buddies planning a Coup d'état?

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Assassination attempts of presidential candidates used to be a big deal. 

As were coup attempts.  

[mtutiger]

Pretty vividly remember both of Trump's assassination attempts being treated like very big deals.

Not sure what the argument is here. Did the American public just not act viscerally enough to them or something? 

[Tigeraholic1]

3 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Pretty vividly remember both of Trump's assassination attempts being treated like very big deals.

Not sure what the argument is here. Did the American public just not act viscerally enough to them or something? 

Why did they wait until 48 hours after election to unseal? Is that not an honest question? 

[romad1]

11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

As were coup attempts.  

we hadn't had anything like that since 1861 so...

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Why did they wait until 48 hours after election to unseal? Is that not an honest question? 

Why are you asking me? I don't know, nor do I really care.

I was responding this:

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Assassination attempts of presidential candidates used to be a big deal. 

Pretty vividly remember both of Trump's assassination attempts being treated like very big deals.

Not sure what the argument is here. Did the American public just not act viscerally enough to them or something? 

Edited November 8, 2024 by mtutiger

[chasfh]

34 minutes ago, romad1 said:

how dare they!?

https://x.com/natashabertrand/status/1854982978994139389?s=46&t=76Y1aNflZsD8yrwQrvLC2g

 

Preventing active duty troops from mowing down citizens on American soil at the orders of the president is the kind of coup d'etat I support.

[chasfh]

4 minutes ago, romad1 said:

we hadn't had anything like that since 1861 so...

Wasn't there an attempt in January, 2021? Or are you thinking successful coups? Is secession technically considered a coup?

[mtutiger]

I look forward to the day when performative whining, crying and grievances aren't a main feature of American political discourse.

Who am I kidding, an asteroid will probably get us before that happens... lol

Edited November 8, 2024 by mtutiger

[romad1]

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Wasn't there an attempt in January, 2021? Or are you thinking successful coups? Is secession technically considered a coup?

Sorry,  I meant that the previous one was...

[romad1]

as for what a coup is...an extra-constitutional attempt to change the government.  The US Civil War was an attempt by the rebels to change the government of the people living in the rebel states.

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

as for what a coup is...an extra-constitutional attempt to change the government.  The US Civil War was an attempt by the rebels to change the government of the people living in the rebel states.

Do you know anything about the political aims of the CSA? Was it ever their intent to march on Washington, overthrow the US government, install their own there, and claim the remainder of the country as a confederacy? Not that they could ever have done so since they were outgunned by a factor of multiples, but was that ever a stated goal anywhere in their papers?

[pfife]

42 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Assassination attempts of presidential candidates used to be a big deal. 

This one happened after Lincoln was assasinated and after Carter was elected and thus is super suspicious

Edited November 8, 2024 by pfife

[pfife]

Maybe 48 hours after the election was when they were ready?

[Tiger337]

25 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Why are you asking me? I don't know, nor do I really care.

I was responding this:

Pretty vividly remember both of Trump's assassination attempts being treated like very big deals.

Not sure what the argument is here. Did the American public just not act viscerally enough to them or something? 

More thoughts and prayers needed.  

[pfife]

I guess we are at the "just asking questions" phase of backing up allegations with evidence.   BORING

[CMRivdogs]

10 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Do you know anything about the political aims of the CSA? Was it ever their intent to march on Washington, overthrow the US government, install their own there, and claim the remainder of the country as a confederacy? Not that they could ever have done so since they were outgunned by a factor of multiples, but was that ever a stated goal anywhere in their papers?

They would have loved to have captured the District of Columbia. Force a surrender and continue the government they had already set up in the states that left the Union.

Lincoln had to sneak into DC for his inauguration.

Recommended reading Eric Larson's Demon of Unrest. A good overview to the events that led up to the attack at Fort Sumpter. A lot of parallels to what is happening now politically. 

[romad1]

14 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Do you know anything about the political aims of the CSA? Was it ever their intent to march on Washington, overthrow the US government, install their own there, and claim the remainder of the country as a confederacy? Not that they could ever have done so since they were outgunned by a factor of multiples, but was that ever a stated goal anywhere in their papers?

It wasn't per se.  I think Oblong AND CMRIVdogs will have a better feel on this but the big mistake the Confederacy which cost them the war made was when they were trying to push into Maryland and Pennsylvania that they issued orders to seize freedmen as war booty and they were trying to knock out the North by taking Washington.  This led to the Gettysburg campaign which stopped Lee cold.

Edited November 8, 2024 by romad1

[gehringer_2]

14 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Do you know anything about the political aims of the CSA? Was it ever their intent to march on Washington, overthrow the US government, install their own there, and claim the remainder of the country as a confederacy? Not that they could ever have done so since they were outgunned by a factor of multiples, but was that ever a stated goal anywhere in their papers?

IDK, but at a minimum the  CSA army wasn't defending their home turf at Gettysburg.

[pfife]

11 minutes ago, pfife said:

Maybe 48 hours after the election was when they were ready?

You laugh at my question, but youve provided absolutely no evidence whatsoever that its untrue. 

Given you're accusing someone of malfeasance the burden of proof is on you. 

[CMRivdogs]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

It wasn't per se.  I think Oblong AND CMRIVdogs will have a better feel on this but the big mistake the Confederacy which cost them the war made was when they were trying to push into Maryland and Pennsylvania that they issued orders to seize freedmen as war booty and they were trying to knock out the North by taking Washington.  This led to the Gettysburg campaign which stopped Lee cold.

If the Confederate Nation would have kept the war in the south they may have prolonged the war. However I think the aggressiveness of Sherman and to a certain extant Grant finally turned the tide with the battles in the Southern States as opposed to mamsy pamsey General McClellan 

[chasfh]

11 minutes ago, pfife said:

I guess we are at the "just asking questions" phase of backing up allegations with evidence.   BORING

Trolls don't do evidence.