2024 Presidential Election thread

[pfife]

3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Once @romad1 answers for all his lies I will comment. Until then I owe nobody anything. Maybe Sue can drag him out to answer questions like she did me. That would be cool.

Youre a liar and also victim.

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The dead woke part.

"We claim to be the party that represents working people, poor people," he told NPR's Morning Edition. "And yet, as you saw in this election, they are moving to the Republicans in droves. I think that is in part because we aren't listening to what is really driving people's emotional center right now."

Not a trickle but droves.......

 

In other words, Fife is correct, you completely mischaracterized what he said. Thanks for confirming.

[Tigeraholic1]

Just now, mtutiger said:

In other words, Fife is correct, you completely mischaracterized what he said. Thanks for confirming.

You spelled his/her/she/it name wrong. 

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Once @romad1 answers for all his lies I will comment. Until then I owe nobody anything. Maybe Sue can drag him out to answer questions like she did me. That would be cool.

 

Dude, I could care less about whatever beefs you have with romad or Sue or whoever.

If you want to engage on any of my points, fine. Otherwise, leave me out of whatever other extracurriculars you got going on.

[Tigerbomb13]

26 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The dead woke part.

"We claim to be the party that represents working people, poor people," he told NPR's Morning Edition. "And yet, as you saw in this election, they are moving to the Republicans in droves. I think that is in part because we aren't listening to what is really driving people's emotional center right now."

Not a trickle but droves.......

 

I don’t think you understand what he’s saying, or you’re purposely are misinterpreting what he said. 

[pfife]

What a ridiculous meltdown

[chasfh]

The worm has burrowed deep.

[CMRivdogs]

Sri Lanka tried RFK Jr.'s food plan, and it was catastrophic. Productivity plummeted, causing food shortages, skyrocketing prices, lost exports, and an economic collapse. Farmers faced huge losses, forcing the government to reverse the ban and import costly emergency food.
 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/

 

 

[Motown Bombers]

Speaking of worms, Trump’s game show was pretty woke. 

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Sri Lanka tried RFK Jr.'s food plan, and it was catastrophic. Productivity plummeted, causing food shortages, skyrocketing prices, lost exports, and an economic collapse. Farmers faced huge losses, forcing the government to reverse the ban and import costly emergency food.
 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/

 

 

Really interesting piece and concerning if anything like that occurs here. People don't understand how bad it would get for normal people.

[mtutiger]

https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2024/10/trump-confirms-rfk-jr-would-tackle-food-and-health-policy/

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Some Farmers Concerned

Progressive Farmer’s Chris Clayton reported last week that “Missouri farmer Blake Hurst is surprised that American farm groups aren’t pushing back on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s assertions that agriculture is destroying America’s health.”

“Hurst, a former president of the Missouri Farm Bureau, wrote an op-ed criticizing some of Kennedy’s views. In an interview with DTN, Hurst said he’s not surprised farm leaders are being quiet about Kennedy’s plans for farmers,” Clayton reported. “‘Everything is so tribal,’ Hurst said. ‘We’re in the Trump tribe and we don’t want to criticize it. Trump did it so it has to be good, right? The second thing is there’s an assumption we’re supposed to take him (Kennedy) figuratively and not literally.'”

“Hurst said he believes one of Trump’s biggest successes economically in his first term was the administration’s entire emphasis on deregulation,” Clayton reported. “‘And I think you can draw a direct line from those efforts to the performance of the economy,’ Hurst said. ‘Some of the things RFK Jr. is talking about will lead in the other direction. Rather, it would be a 180-degree turn from the first term, so that has to be concerning.'”

Clayton reported that “Kennedy’s positions also run counter to the Trump campaign’s responses to the American Farm Bureau Federation questionnaire on agriculture in which the former president said he would reverse Biden-Harris regulations.”

"Trump did it so it has to be good, right?"

[chasfh]

13 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Speaking of worms, Trump’s game show was pretty woke. 

How dare you criticize our future Acting Secretary of Partying All The Way the **** Down?

[CMRivdogs]

6 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Really interesting piece and concerning if anything like that occurs here. People don't understand how bad it would get for normal people.

If you look back and remember how farmers in the US struggled under Trump's tariffs last time around. This could be much worse. 
 

I have no problem attempting to get people to eat healthier and understand the problems with process foods. It just seems that the administration will have a huge problem on their hands trying to dictate to Big Foods.

[CMRivdogs]

The other issue, at least around here seems that the older long time farmers have either retired or died off, their heirs either have no interest in carrying on the tradition or have moved out of the area.

They're left with lots of land they're paying taxes on, not producing anything and a portion of the population dead set against new subdivisions, industry or anything else unless it's a WAWA or a BUC-EES

[chasfh]

17 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

If you look back and remember how farmers in the US struggled under Trump's tariffs last time around. This could be much worse. 
 

I have no problem attempting to get people to eat healthier and understand the problems with process foods. It just seems that the administration will have a huge problem on their hands trying to dictate to Big Foods.

It's 1984. He's going to strip away regulations so our food can be comfortably poisoned. There will be a economic cost-vs-death benefit analysis.

[mtutiger]

31 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

If you look back and remember how farmers in the US struggled under Trump's tariffs last time around. This could be much worse.

Absolutely - part of why I shared the piece above. 

If you take RFK Jr.'s ideas on ag policy to their logical end, it would be an existential event for large ag producing economies. As someone who lives in large ag producing state, that concerns me.

And again, I go back to this point: to the extent there was a "mandate" on November 5th, it was around inflation and the price of goods.... a number of Trump's picks so far suggest that he doesn't understand nor does he care about inflation and, if anything, would be fine to reignite it for everyone.

Edited 15 hours ago by mtutiger

[Motown Bombers]

16 minutes ago, chasfh said:

It's 1984. He's going to strip away regulations so our food can be comfortably poisoned. There will be an economic cost-vs-death benefit analysis.

This business like approach is what happened with the Flint water. At least it won’t have fluoride this time. 

[Edman85]

2 hours ago, pfife said:

Youre a liar and also victim.

 

Sorry, made me think of this.

[Edman85]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Sri Lanka tried RFK Jr.'s food plan, and it was catastrophic. Productivity plummeted, causing food shortages, skyrocketing prices, lost exports, and an economic collapse. Farmers faced huge losses, forcing the government to reverse the ban and import costly emergency food.
 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/

 

 

Norovirus for all!

Don't buy organic produce for anything that is ground based. The science of pasteurization of fecal based fertilizers is not great.

[Motown Bombers]

[Tiger337]

It's not Sanders's fault they lost this year.  Get over it.  

[Motown Bombers]

People literally in his campaign are in Trump’s cabinet and he thinks he knows what’s wrong with party despite never winning anything. 

[mtutiger]

https://x.com/wsteaks/status/1857560537594310926

The evidence keeps mounting... Donald Trump nominated a pederast to be his AG

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

It's not Sanders's fault they lost this year.  Get over it.  

Sadly, I don't find it hard to believe that one out of every 8 or 10 or ten Obama/Biden voters wouldn't vote for a woman -- and when all is said and done it may have been that simple.  Does seem to run counter to the logic in MI where we've elected other women, but Prez is still different from all that.

Edited 8 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Sadly, I don't find it hard to believe that one out of every 8 or 10 or ten Obama/Biden voters wouldn't vote for a woman -- and when all is said and done it may have been that simple.  Does seem to run counter to the logic in MI where we've elected other women, but Prez is still different from all that.

Bernie Bros are young white men who continually move towards Trump. Joe Rogan was once a Bernie Bro. I'm still waiting for the revolution they promised in 2016 after we had to burn it all down because the election was rigged against Sanders. That kind of rhetoric sounds familiar.