2024 Presidential Election thread

[Tiger337]

11 hours ago, smr-nj said:

That You’ll wait outside for her if she’d feel better?  

That was going to be my answer too. 

I will add that telling someone who is scared not to be scared would not be the best answer.  If someone is scared, you help them in the moment.  

[Tigeraholic1]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

Trump has publicly bragged about walking through beauty pageant restrooms while young women were in there.  He said it was OK because he owned the pageant.  So, the threat of him going into a woman's restroom seems legitimate.  

My only point of all of the bathroom talk is because the woman brought the issues up and the woman wanted in the rules added. 

 

 

 

[CMRivdogs]

11 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Is Trump trying to use the women’s room? Why all the deflection? This is about a woman standing up for her rights. 
 

 

I wouldn't put it past him. They tell me wet and dirty Depends can be annoying.

[Tigeraholic1]

5 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I wouldn't put it past him. They tell me wet and dirty Depends can be annoying.

Ok… I am gonna disengage with this discussion man…

[CMRivdogs]

[LaceyLou]

21 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Trump has publicly bragged about walking through beauty pageant restrooms while young women were in there.  He said it was OK because he owned the pageant.  So, the threat of him going into a woman's restroom seems legitimate.  

One of many reasons it's hard to take seriously when his supporters cry about women's fears of being assaulted in bathrooms.

[Archie]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:26 PM, smr-nj said:

50 years later than other “civilized” countries in the world?

Am I supposed to applaud our citizens? Lmao. 
and just because you say she was a bad candidate, and that people hated Hillary, I’m gonna tell you right now. You do not speak for a whole Lotta women in this country.

So please don’t blow smoke up my ass.

Sorry it took so long to get back.

So hypocritically in 2028 the Rep nominee is Kristie Noam and the dem is Hakeem Jefferies.  Will we be able to count on you to vote for Noam since she is a woman? I feel you are a die hard dem and would consider her a bad candidate.

[smr-nj]

11 minutes ago, Archie said:

Sorry it took so long to get back.

So hypocritically in 2028 the Rep nominee is Kristie Noam and the dem is Hakeem Jefferies.  Will we be able to count on you to vote for Noam since she is a woman? I feel you are a die hard dem and would consider her a bad candidate.

I’m assuming you meant hypothetically and not hypocritically. Lol. But maybe you didn’t? 😁
 

She is a bad candidate. She shoots dogs. 

[chasfh]

16 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Mace is a rape survivor. I see no one even acknowledges that. Maybe she does not like the idea of a man being in a room without cameras and locking stall doors. A man pretending to be a woman overrides an actual woman’s right to pee with just women.

Nancy Mace may be a survivor of rape at the hands of a high school classmate, and it’s very sad and tragic that she went through that. Her efforts to bar a fellow female Congressional representative from using the public bathroom of the gender the rep is legitimately identified with does nothing to address Mace’s own personal history, with the possible exception that she was raped in a bathroom by a man dressed as a woman—which by her own admission she was not.

If Mace is using her story as the reason she wants to punish another rep who had nothing to do with the story, then not only would that be a corrupt and inappropriate use of her congressional power, but it actually backfires on her and makes her look like nothing less than a bully. And that goes double since Mace is a devoted and vocal disciple of an adjudicated rapist. 

The most likely reason Mace is doing this is so she can personally profit from it.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/nancy-mace-transgender-bathroom-bill-t-shirts/

Additional future fundraising pleas directly related to this issue to come, I assume.

[chasfh]

26 minutes ago, Archie said:

Sorry it took so long to get back.

So hypocritically in 2028 the Rep nominee is Kristie Noam and the dem is Hakeem Jefferies.  Will we be able to count on you to vote for Noam since she is a woman? I feel you are a die hard dem and would consider her a bad candidate.

Perfect

[Edman85]

5 hours ago, romad1 said:

CONCURIDELIC!  That would be an iron clad rule with me as well.  The other is too much patriotic heraldry in their ads.  I'm also a huge opponent of anything that skews the commercial with the civic. The best example of that is Mission BBQ which (dunno if that hit Michigan or where you live chasfh) its a veteran-owned business.  They love to wrap themselves in the idea that they are supporting "the mission" which is what?  

When I was on active duty the mission was to defend the NATO border with the Warsaw Pact and destroy the Red Army should there be conflict.  When I was doing counter-terrorism "the mission" was preventing another 9/11 and finding who was responsible for 9/11. 

So, how is that particular mission supported by eating sticky meat?   Is it because making these particular veterans rich is somehow the mission? 

Ever go to Mission at Noon where everybody stands for the pledge?

I live near WWP HQ. Their scandal about 10 years ago was the epitome of patriotic grifting.

[Tigeraholic1]

10 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

 

I live near WWP HQ. Their scandal about 10 years ago was the epitome of patriotic grifting.

 

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

WWP=Wounded Warrior Project. Non-profit that nearly went belly up in 2016.

Also. always look beyond the AI summary on anything that potentially changes over time. The algorithm is not very good at discerning obsolete data from current data. I've recently had the AI bot toss up a lot of bad Linux  system programming info because it was recapitulating obsoleted info. Supposedly you can try using -AI on your searches. I've been experimenting with that.

Edited November 23, 2024 by gehringer_2

[Archie]

1 hour ago, smr-nj said:

I’m assuming you meant hypothetically and not hypocritically. Lol. But maybe you didn’t? 😁
 

She is a bad candidate. She shoots dogs. 

Yeah. Phone spell check. But anyway that is how a lot people looked at harris including people in her own party.  It wasn't a woman thing.

[Tigeraholic1]

42 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

WWP=Wounded Warrior Project. Non-profit that nearly went belly up in 2016.

Also. always look beyond the AI summary on anything that potentially changes over time. The algorithm is not very good at discerning obsolete data from current data. I've recently had the AI bot toss up a lot of bad Linux  system programming info because it was recapitulating obsoleted info. Supposedly you can try using -AI on your searches. I've been experimenting with that.

I lost track of the grifting target. I do see the daily beast broke that story. Same journalist org that broke the FEMA story. Pretty sure I got laughed out of here for posting that source.

 

[CMRivdogs]

I disagree with the narrative that Harris was a horrible candidate.  Just take a look at the popular vote totals and percentages and you will see she ran ahead of several of the candidates in the last several cycles.

Yes, she lost the popular vote, but it was not anything close to a Trump landslide, except maybe in the undemocratic Electorial College, which is heavily weighed in favor of smaller states and mostly rural areas.

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Let’s put this in perspective: Trump is winning a lower percent of the popular vote this year than Biden did in 2020 (51.3), Obama in 2012 (51.1), Obama in 2008 (52.9), George W. Bush in 2004 (50.7), George H.W. Bush in 1988 (53.2), Ronald Reagan in 1984 (58.8), Reagan in 1980 (50.7), or Jimmy Carter in 1976 (50.1). And, of course, Trump numbers are way below those of the presidents who won what could reasonably be described as “unprecedented and powerful” mandates, such as Richard Nixon’s 60.7 percent in 1972, Lyndon Johnson’s 61.1 percent in 1964, or Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s 60.8 percent. As Trump’s percentage continues to slide, he’ll fall below the thresholds achieved by most presidents in the past century.

Harris, on the other hand, is looking like a much stronger finisher than she did on election night. In fact, the Democrat now has a higher percentage of the popular vote than Presidents Trump in 2016 (46.1), Bush in 2000 (47.9), Clinton in 1992 (43), or Nixon in 1968 (43.4). She has also performed significantly better than recent major-party nominees such as Trump in 2020 (46.8), Trump in 2016 (48.2), Mitt Romney in 2012 (47.2), John McCain in 2008 (45.7), George W. Bush in 2000 (47.9), Bob Dole in 1996 (40.7), George H.W. Bush in 1992 (37.4), Michael Dukakis in 1988 (45.6), Walter Mondale (40.6), Carter in 1980 (41), or Gerald Ford in 1976 (48).

Yes, some of those historic results were influenced by the presence of strong third-party contenders. But most were not. And the bottom line is that the gap between Trump and Harris is narrower than the difference between major-party contenders in the vast majority of American presidential races.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/donald-trump-vote-margin-narrowed/

[LaceyLou]

I've never heard of Mission BBQ... though TBF it probably isn't a restaurant I would choose.

[romad1]

3 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

I've never heard of Mission BBQ... though TBF it probably isn't a restaurant I would choose.

Its going to replace the Veterans Administration

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Speaking of Trans people using the bathrooms the feel most comfortable using, let's check in and see what Donald Trump had to say about his issue . . .

 

 

[CMRivdogs]

20 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

I've never heard of Mission BBQ... though TBF it probably isn't a restaurant I would choose.

They don't have any franchises in MA or NH or anywhere near there. You're really not missing much. Founded by a couple of restaurant executives, one was an Outback executive. The other had sons in the military. They are based in Maryland, just outside and promotes a patriotic atmosphere.
 

TBH the food is nothing to go out of your way for (I can think of at least three better BBQ places here and a NC based chain I prefer to their BBQ. They do give "free" sandwiches to vets one day a week.

I have nothing against "being patriotic" I've played in community bands long enough to respect those who served and enjoy watching them stand when we play the "Armed Forces Salute". I do object to those who try to monetize "patriotism" . I've yet to find any Veteran causes that MBQ donates any significant sums of money or donates their products (free catering and such or deep discounts) to any local veterans groups.

BTW I also despise the Lee Greenwood song. I feel it's been overplayed and just like the Pledge of Allegiance and Lord's Prayer too many people just go thru the motions leaving them without any real meaning. 
 

But to Trumpaholic, Thank you for your service.

 

[romad1]

3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

They don't have any franchises in MA or NH or anywhere near there. You're really not missing much. Founded by a couple of restaurant executives, one was an Outback executive. The other had sons in the military. They are based in Maryland, just outside and promotes a patriotic atmosphere.
 

TBH the food is nothing to go out of your way for (I can think of at least three better BBQ places here and a NC based chain I prefer to their BBQ. They do give "free" sandwiches to vets one day a week.

I have nothing against "being patriotic" I've played in community bands long enough to respect those who served and enjoy watching them stand when we play the "Armed Forces Salute". I do object to those who try to monetize "patriotism" . I've yet to find any Veteran causes that MBQ donates any significant sums of money or donates their products (free catering and such or deep discounts) to any local veterans groups.

BTW I also despise the Lee Greenwood song. I feel it's been overplayed and just like the Pledge of Allegiance and Lord's Prayer too many people just go thru the motions leaving them without any real meaning. 
 

But to Trumpaholic, Thank you for your service.

 

The John Oliver piece about the Lee Greenwood song was interesting.

[romad1]

Red Hot and Blue is the chain I used to go to...but I never thought they were overdoing that flag waving like MBBQ does.   RH&B potato salad was crack-cocaine for me at one point. 

[CMRivdogs]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

Red Hot and Blue is the chain I used to go to...but I never thought they were overdoing that flag waving like MBBQ does.   RH&B potato salad was crack-cocaine for me at one point. 

I remember them. Like I've said, if you're ever in the area check out Two Drummers, they're about 15 miles away from the touristy area. Founded by brothers who were members of the CW Fife and Drum Corp (evidently a big honor here for high school kids). They also have a great butcher shop closer to town. And are active in many of the National BBQ competitions as a supplier.

The local favorite is Pierces, which has been around since the 70s, it's good, not great. Legend has it that when I64 opened truckers passing thru, the drivers would pull their rigs off the road and hop the fence. The restaurant is located on what used to be the Rt 60 Bypass.

In Eastern NC, especially around Raleigh, we often make an effort to visit Smithfield's BBQ and Chicken. Once again good BBQ

[gehringer_2]

We had an early "Famous Dave's" in Minneapolis that was better than anything currently available in A^2. But I don't know if FD's has maintained their standards as they've grown, most places don't.

For years in A^2 a one old dude ran a tiny hole in the wall with one smoker in a little shack that was probably once a 1940's single island gas station at Kerrytown. Strictly carry out. But he eventually decided to retire and no-one wanted the business. They are now building a multistory bldg on the site (queue up the Joni Mitchell...). There have been a couple of BBQ places come and go in town since then but none seem to stick. Maybe BBQ is tough sell today with the Quinoa and Arugula crowd.

Edited November 23, 2024 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Archie said:

Yeah. Phone spell check. But anyway that is how a lot people looked at harris including people in her own party.  It wasn't a woman thing.

Your question would have made more sense if you asked a Republican.