2024 Presidential Election thread

[Tigermojo]

Malignant narcissist bully lies, news at eleven.

I can't wait for the country to turn against him like his former supporters turned against him and were willing to vote for a democrat instead of him.

[Tigeraholic1]

17 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Anything on this @Tigeraholic1?

With the current mess it will take time to fix that is for sure. I don’t think anybody thought he was going to show up with a magic wand. Just like Biden he will have four years to figure it out. How is the inflation reduction act working out?

Edited December 15, 2024 by Tigeraholic1

[oblong]

[Tiger337]

5 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

With the current mess it will take time to fix that is for sure. I don’t think anybody thought he was going to show up with a magic wand. Just like Biden he will have four years to figure it out. How is the inflation reduction act working out?

Inflation is lower than it was before the inflation reduction act, so maybe it's doing OK. 

Or maybe it was gong to start getting better anyway because we are further away from peak Covid.

You are right about magic wands.  No President has a magic wand which controls the economy.  In fact, they are limited in what they can do to  fix the economy, especially short term. 

Have you ever heard Trump talk?  Not just edited sound clips but actually talk for several minutes?  He doesn't know **** about any policy issue.  I see no magic there.  Any good results that happen will have to come from elsewhere.  

Edited December 16, 2024 by Tiger337

[Tiger337]

Are there people that actually think grocery prices will go down?  We ALWAYS have inflation.  Food prices are not going down ever.  

[CMRivdogs]

36 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Are there people that actually think grocery prices will go down?  We ALWAYS have inflation.  Food prices are not going down ever.  

Even without tariffs on things like bananas, tomatoes, cucumbers, beans, pinaples...

Edited December 16, 2024 by CMRivdogs

[pfife]

The inflation reduction act was great

[chasfh]

On 12/14/2024 at 6:00 PM, mtutiger said:

I'm shocked to learn that the guy who campaigned on things that would, in practice, increase inflation has no plan to reduce grocery prices

I assume they already have a plan in place to blame the Democrats and their voters for rising inflation under Trump.

[chasfh]

On 12/14/2024 at 6:13 PM, mtutiger said:

Would be really terrible for Rural Americans everywhere...

It's all fun and games until there are material consequences 

This is why government is not a business, so running it like a business goes against the interest of its citizens on balance.

[CMRivdogs]

If FB and NextDoor comments are any indication of business acumen then private companies like UPS and FedEx are doing ****ty jobs at delivering packages, let alone allowing them to deliver mail.

Personally I think the PO should triple the junk mail rate. The current Trump guy running the PO has been a disaster. If you do a bit of research and look up the Richmond, Va distribution center fiascos, you'll get a good look at the future under King Donald, the First of His Name.

[chasfh]

21 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

With the current mess it will take time to fix that is for sure. I don’t think anybody thought he was going to show up with a magic wand.

Trump himself promised he would show up with a metaphoric magic wand, and that he would bring prices down on day one.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/15/us-news/trump-blasts-kamala-harris-high-grocery-prices-and-maduro-plan-while-standing-in-front-of-cheerios-meat/

“So when I win, I will immediately bring prices down, starting on day one. We will end Kamala’s war on American energy, and we will drill baby drill. We’re going to drill, baby drill that’s going to bring down prices of everything, because energy brought it up,” Trump went on.

Also:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-rally-north-carolina/2024/09/21/id/1181213/

"Groceries and rent will no longer break your budgets, and you will have thousands of dollars of savings by the end of the year," said Trump. "We're going to get your energy costs down in one year. We're going to get your energy costs down by 50%. We'll cut it in half. We're going to cut it in half. It means young people will once again be able to afford a mortgage and a home."

[pfife]

Lmao

Magaholic trying to rewrote history aka lying

[Tigerbomb13]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Trump himself promised he would show up with a metaphoric magic wand, and that he would bring prices down on day one.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/15/us-news/trump-blasts-kamala-harris-high-grocery-prices-and-maduro-plan-while-standing-in-front-of-cheerios-meat/

“So when I win, I will immediately bring prices down, starting on day one. We will end Kamala’s war on American energy, and we will drill baby drill. We’re going to drill, baby drill that’s going to bring down prices of everything, because energy brought it up,” Trump went on.

Also:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-rally-north-carolina/2024/09/21/id/1181213/

"Groceries and rent will no longer break your budgets, and you will have thousands of dollars of savings by the end of the year," said Trump. "We're going to get your energy costs down in one year. We're going to get your energy costs down by 50%. We'll cut it in half. We're going to cut it in half. It means young people will once again be able to afford a mortgage and a home."

He’s got a magic wand…until he inevitably gets caught in another lie 

[LaceyLou]

20 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Are there people that actually think grocery prices will go down?  We ALWAYS have inflation.  Food prices are not going down ever.  

Prices *might* come down if there's a huge Depression, but I doubt people would like that any better than the inflation. And of course, there are other factors involved that could keep prices going up.

The only other way I can think of it happening is an executive order saying that businesses *must* reduce their prices. I have no idea if that could even be done, but I have a better idea about how much those who bought and paid for him might react to that. 

[CMRivdogs]

Or do we get a Trump version of Ford's WIN (Whip Inflation Now!) buttons and he declares victory. There will be dancing in the streets!

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, LaceyLou said:

Prices *might* come down if there's a huge Depression, but I doubt people would like that any better than the inflation. And of course, there are other factors involved that could keep prices going up.

The only other way I can think of it happening is an executive order saying that businesses *must* reduce their prices. I have no idea if that could even be done, but I have a better idea about how much those who bought and paid for him might react to that. 

  for good or ill, no developed country in the world today will deliberately operate their central banking system to produce deflation. It just isn't going to happen, because every central banker in the world today believes deflation is far more dangerous to an economy than any impact of any typical inflation. Again, a very plain simple fact of which most Americans are ignorant because; politicians find it more convenient to lie and obfuscate than just explain/admit the facts, and the (vast majority of the) media is economically illiterate.

Edited December 16, 2024 by gehringer_2

[LaceyLou]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Or do we get a Trump version of Ford's WIN (Whip Inflation Now!) buttons and he declares victory. There will be dancing in the streets!

Sadly, I can see that happening. 

[pfife]

Trump is considering.......  Jared Moskowitz to head FEMA?   Dude has the experience and skills but there muat be a house seat gambit here.

 

[Motown Bombers]

A lot of Dems are acquiescing to Trump. Moskowitz, Fetterman, Murphy just to name a few. 

[CMRivdogs]

Meanwhile in Canada...

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Justin Trudeau’s chief lieutenant throughout his tenure as Canada’s prime minister resigned from his cabinet on Monday, citing differences over how to confront President-elect Donald Trump’s “America First” economic nationalism, threatened tariffs and a possible trade war.

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3ldgwcklgrc2g

 

[CMRivdogs]

https://bsky.app/profile/joycewhitevance.bsky.social/post/3ldjebr5xas22

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Joyce White Vance

‪@joycewhitevance.bsky.social‬

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Not to normalize the idea of a president-elect attacking a judge in this unhinged manner, but it was actually, the US Supreme Court that declined to lift the gag order on Trump.

 

 

[CMRivdogs]

https://politicalwire.com/2024/12/17/13-fake-electors-will-cast-real-electoral-votes-this-time/

These guys should have served time and barred from voting

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13 Fake Electors Will Cast Real Electoral Votes This Time

December 17, 2024 at 9:41 am EST By Taegan Goddard 16 Comments

“Thirteen Republicans who participated in the 2020 fake electors plot, including some who are facing criminal charges, will cast real Electoral College votes Tuesday for President-elect Donald Trump, as electors in the states finalize his victory,” CNN reports.

“These Republican activists hail from Pennsylvania, Michigan and Nevada – critical battleground states that Trump carried this year, after losing them all in 2020. Four years ago, they signed fake certificates falsely claiming Trump won.”

 

[mtutiger]

On 12/15/2024 at 12:30 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

With the current mess it will take time to fix that is for sure. I don’t think anybody thought he was going to show up with a magic wand. Just like Biden he will have four years to figure it out. How is the inflation reduction act working out?

Amazing how the possibility of high inflation becomes an acceptable outcome and a pill we all have to swallow the moment Trump became President-elect

As I recall, you were singing out of a much different song book (and slinging accusations at others) during 2022 and 2023 over this very issue. Interesting 

Edited December 19, 2024 by mtutiger

[Motown Bombers]

8 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Amazing how the possibility of high inflation becomes an acceptable outcome and a pill we all have to swallow the moment Trump became President-elect

As I recall, you were singing out of a much different song book (and slinging accusations at others) during 2022 and 2023 over this very issue. Interesting 

It's not that interesting when you understand his real concern was where people he never met in real life go to the bathroom. 

[mtutiger]

53 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

It's not that interesting when you understand his real concern was where people he never met in real life go to the bathroom. 

There is a theory behind the tariffs, that the economic pain that the tariffs will inflict will magically lead to a bunch of onshoring of American manufacturing, increasing jobs to Americans. It's obviously a load of horse****, but to a degree some have either bought it or are hanging on it at the very least.

I would be curious to know for how long we are all expected to hold our tongue and refrain from complaining about higher prices should he implement these tariffs.... is there a timeline? Or, paraphrasing Lord Farquaad from Shrek, are Americans paying higher prices in pursuit of flawed economic policy just a sacrifice that Donald Trump has to make?

Edited December 19, 2024 by mtutiger