BoomGaspar Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 With the '22 All-Star break upon us, where does Miguel Cabrera rank historically? He is... 25th in MLB history in hits with 3069. He needs 21 more to pass Ichiro Suzuki for 24th. 8th in team history in hits with 2227. He needs 139 more to pass Alan Trammell for 7th. 27th in MLB history in home runs with 505. He needs 5 more to pass Gary Sheffield for 26th. 3rd in team history in home runs with 367. He needs 7 more to pass Norm Cash for 2nd. 16th in MLB history in RBI with 1838. He needs 2 more to pass Ted Williams for 15th. 5th in team history in RBI with 1315. He needs 93 more to pass Charlie Gehringer for 4th. 14th in MLB history in doubles with 605. He needs 20 more to pass Hank Aaron for 13th. 5th in team history in doubles with 422. He needs 76 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 4th. 16th in MLB history in total bases with 5223. He needs 49 more to pass Ken Griffey Jr. for 15th. 5th in team history in total bases with 3764. He needs 15 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 4th. 59th in MLB history in walks with 1215. He needs 2 more to pass Dave Winfield for 58th. 7th in team history in walks with 893. He needs 133 more to pass Norm Cash for 6th. 17th in MLB history in extra base hits with 1127. He needs 5 more to pass Tris Speaker for 16th. 5th in team history in extra base hits with 796. He needs 11 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 4th. 64th in MLB history in runs scored with 1524. He needs 5 more to pass Kenny Lofton for 63rd. 9th in team history in runs scored with 1075. He needs 41 more to pass Sam Crawford for 8th. 37th in MLB history in games played with 2666. He needs 5 more to pass Rabbit Maranville for 36th. 9th in team history in games played with 1946. He needs 44 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 8th. Check in again at the end of the season for an update. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Brian_K Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Using those specific numbers he would be 30th on a list of best players...using those metrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, BoomGaspar said: With the '22 All-Star break upon us, where does Miguel Cabrera rank historically? He is... 25th in MLB history in hits with 3069. He needs 21 more to pass Ichiro Suzuki for 24th. 8th in team history in hits with 2227. He needs 139 more to pass Alan Trammell for 7th. 27th in MLB history in home runs with 505. He needs 5 more to pass Gary Sheffield for 26th. 3rd in team history in home runs with 367. He needs 7 more to pass Norm Cash for 2nd. 16th in MLB history in RBI with 1838. He needs 2 more to pass Ted Williams for 15th. 5th in team history in RBI with 1315. He needs 93 more to pass Charlie Gehringer for 4th. 14th in MLB history in doubles with 605. He needs 20 more to pass Hank Aaron for 13th. 5th in team history in doubles with 422. He needs 76 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 4th. 16th in MLB history in total bases with 5223. He needs 49 more to pass Ken Griffey Jr. for 15th. 5th in team history in total bases with 3764. He needs 15 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 4th. 59th in MLB history in walks with 1215. He needs 2 more to pass Dave Winfield for 58th. 7th in team history in walks with 893. He needs 133 more to pass Norm Cash for 6th. 17th in MLB history in extra base hits with 1127. He needs 5 more to pass Tris Speaker for 16th. 5th in team history in extra base hits with 796. He needs 11 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 4th. 64th in MLB history in runs scored with 1524. He needs 5 more to pass Kenny Lofton for 63rd. 9th in team history in runs scored with 1075. He needs 41 more to pass Sam Crawford for 8th. 37th in MLB history in games played with 2666. He needs 5 more to pass Rabbit Maranville for 36th. 9th in team history in games played with 1946. He needs 44 more to pass Harry Heilmann for 8th. Check in again at the end of the season for an update. Thanks for that. Looking at the numbers "Storming" Norman Cash was a damn good player for Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Great thread—thanks for doing the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 47 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Thanks for that. Looking at the numbers "Storming" Norman Cash was a damn good player for Detroit. Look at Harry Heilmann's name all over the place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Look at Harry Heilmann's name all over the place... no kidding...I don't quite remember watching him...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: no kidding...I don't quite remember watching him...:) There's some grainy silent film on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkelly Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) We will miss him when he is gone after next season. Truly one of the greatest players in the history of MLB (same with Pujols). As of this moment, they are the two greatest players of this generation. This year he is the heaviest strictly singles hitter in history. Edited July 18, 2022 by gkelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 If Avisail Garcia would have kept it in his pants, Miggy would have finished with a top 10 of all-time career easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkelly Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I don't know about top 10 but he is definitely one of the top 30 or so offensive players of all time for sure as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 hours ago, gkelly said: We will miss him when he is gone after next season. Truly one of the greatest players in the history of MLB (same with Pujols). As of this moment, they are the two greatest players of this generation. This year he is the heaviest strictly singles hitter in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkelly Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Those guys have done it longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatikIEV Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Dang, I thought for sure this was going to be one of those 'making fun of Miggy's age' / images through time meme threads. ...not going all let my effort go to waste at this point, appropriate or not Edited July 19, 2022 by StatikIEV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Miguel has a fair shot at finishing this season (or early next) in the top 20 all time for hits. It's unlikely he could improve that to top 10 even if plays another full season similar to '22 in '23 so that's about the maximum expectation he can have for his legacy. While he continues to collect hits, he cannot maintain enough power to be even an average net value hitter any more. I hope he decides to call it quits at the end of this season, but I'm afraid there are 40 million reasons he will force the Tigers to cut him next year after he arrives at ST, which will be sort of sad but a necessary move. Who knows, maybe he will accept less in an arranged buy out, though honestly I don't know why he should. Edited July 19, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 10 hours ago, gkelly said: Those guys have done it longer. Not a lot longer if you are counting great years. Neither Cabrera nor Pujols has been great for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger2022 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 8:21 AM, Tiger337 said: Not a lot longer if you are counting great years. Neither Cabrera nor Pujols has been great for a long time. Pujols years with the Cardinals stand with the greatest run of anyone ever in MLB history. Trout, while spectacular, isn't on the same level as Pujols for the first 10 or 12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, tiger2022 said: Pujols years with the Cardinals stand with the greatest run of anyone ever in MLB history. Trout, while spectacular, isn't on the same level as Pujols for the first 10 or 12 years. Pujols was better. Trout had a higher OPS+ the first 12 years (176 to 168). Pujols was more durable (91.5 WAR to 79.9 WAR) and that is important. Cabrera lagged behind: 154 OPS+ and 59.8 WAR. Those are awesome numbers, but not quite the same class as the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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