Theo Epstein For the Tigers?

[AlaskanTigersFan]

https://detroitsportsnation.com/dear-chris-ilitch-give-theo-epstein-a-blank-check-and-get-out-of-the-way/ddrysdale/mlb/detroit-tigers-news/07/16/2022/284253/

 

Saw this. It'd be interesting and my number one choice. Or hire one of Friedman's lieutenants away.... Thoughts on this?

[Motor City Sonics]

I don't think Theo just wants a blank check at this stage.  Been there/Done that.  I think Theo would want a piece of ownership and the Illtiches are not going to do that.    

 

Theo is considered a possible baseball commissioner candidate.   I don't see Rob Manfred sticking around too long.  He's a boob.  

[chasfh]

I think the owners like that Rob Manfred has become the lightning rod Baseball needs when they do something controversial, like rules changes, or juicing or deadening the ball, or integrating gambling into every nook and cranny of the game. Manfred is the face of whatever anger fans direct toward Baseball, and playing the heel is a pretty lucrative role for him, especially if he doesn’t really love the game all that much, which many suspect.

[Toddwert]

I think Manfred has some more years of abuse in him 

[mtutiger]

If they were to move on from Avila (and assuming it isn't some "move AJ upstairs" maneuver), I would like them to look at the Dodgers org, particularly with some of the player development hires they have made and furthering continuity on that front.

[oblong]

There's nothing the Tigers could offer Theo Epstein to get him to come here except ownership.

 

[RandyMarsh]

I know the Lions were burned by going all in on guys from a smart and successful team but despite that I definitely like the idea of going after somebody from the Dodgers, Cardinals or Braves type organization.

Yeah in the Dodgers case it helps to have the resources they have but money can't be the only reason they churn out and develop prospects hand over fist. 

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, oblong said:

There's nothing the Tigers could offer Theo Epstein to get him to come here except ownership.

 

Also, I don't think it's particularly creative. He gets called out in this letter because he's a big name, but do we really know that he'd be the best possible option on the market?

There are a lot of good and dynamic organizations in this league, such as the Dodgers and Rays, who have folks employed who deserve a shot at running a ballclub. Given some of the outside org hires made last offseason in player development, the Dodgers in particular make a lot of sense for the Tigers to look at should they want to theoretically hire someone as GM from the outside. 

I would prefer they do that than go get an Epstein, who has been out of the game for a while and doesn't seem interested in coming back.

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, Toddwert said:

I think Manfred has some more years of abuse in him 

 

 

[Toddwert]

2 hours ago, oblong said:

There's nothing the Tigers could offer Theo Epstein to get him to come here except ownership.

 

I dont know he seems to like a challenge 

[oblong]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Also, I don't think it's particularly creative. He gets called out in this letter because he's a big name, but do we really know that he'd be the best possible option on the market?

There are a lot of good and dynamic organizations in this league, such as the Dodgers and Rays, who have folks employed who deserve a shot at running a ballclub. Given some of the outside org hires made last offseason in player development, the Dodgers in particular make a lot of sense for the Tigers to look at should they want to theoretically hire someone as GM from the outside. 

I would prefer they do that than go get an Epstein, who has been out of the game for a while and doesn't seem interested in coming back.

another good point.  Epstein was the "first" disciple I guess of Billy Beane but now there's hundreds of them who are younger, hungrier, and probably smarter.

 

[chasfh]

19 minutes ago, oblong said:

another good point.  Epstein was the "first" disciple I guess of Billy Beane but now there's hundreds of them who are younger, hungrier, and probably smarter.

 

Old innovators inevitably fall behind the new innovators.

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

 

 

I think I've posted this before on the old board, but Manfred has a bit of Frank Burns from MASH in him.  I'll bet he got hazed big time in college.

[Dan Gilmore]

Robert Duvall, or Larry Linville? Manfred does have some ferret genes.

[AlaskanTigersFan]

8 hours ago, oblong said:

another good point.  Epstein was the "first" disciple I guess of Billy Beane but now there's hundreds of them who are younger, hungrier, and probably smarter.

 

He rebuilt the organizations though. Thats what I like about him. The Cubs built a "home grown" team. Same for the Red Sox. He knows how to get the right young guys. At least for one good run. I'd love to see what he can do.