1984Echoes Posted August 6, 2022 Author Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 2:38 AM, Motor City Sonics said: Who even cares anymore? Doesn't matter, they'll mess it up. Even if they hit on the first pick they won't get shit in Roudns 2-10 because they pretty much never do. Expand Oh... do you mean like Spencer Turnbull? Or Tarik Skubal? Or Ty Alexander? Beau Brieske? Kody Clemens? Dillon Dingler or Wenceel Perez (whoops, gotta wait another year for those two...)? Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 Let me know when any of those guys puts together 3 league average years in a row. Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 6, 2022 Author Posted August 6, 2022 PS: Did I forget to mention the Bullpen? Jimenez, Soto, Foley, Vest, Alexander, Hill, Lange... not a 1st rounder in there... Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 6, 2022 Author Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 2:52 AM, Motor City Sonics said: Let me know when any of those guys puts together 3 league average years in a row. Expand I'll let you know after the 2025 season. Bet you can't wait for that!!! Especially because there will be 3 more Avila's worth of draft picks on their way!!! Quote
buddha Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 someone needs to tell 84 that the tigers are one of the worst teams in baseball. he seems to think those players are good. Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 6, 2022 Author Posted August 6, 2022 That's today. Which says nothing about tomorrow (you know... "wait till next year!!!"). Quote
buddha Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 1:00 PM, 1984Echoes said: That's today. Which says nothing about tomorrow (you know... "wait till next year!!!"). Expand yeah, but you thought they were all good yesterday too. you're an eternal optimist when it comes to this team. they need fans like you. Quote
Tiger337 Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 There is nothing wrong with being an optimist. It probably adds a couple of years to your life - the Tigers might finally be good in those years. Quote
buddha Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 the board needs more guys like 84. all the rest of us just bitch about how much the tigers suck. 2 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 2:36 AM, 1984Echoes said: Yep... I forget how the odds (weighting) play out based on position... Expand The odds don't increase at all in the top 3. I posted them earlier in the thread. Quote
1984Echoes Posted August 6, 2022 Author Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 11:33 PM, Edman85 said: The odds don't increase at all in the top 3. I posted them earlier in the thread. Expand Awesome... I'll go look... But also... "don't increase at all in the top 3" means that once a team starts falling OUT of the top 3 those odds start to decrease, correct? (before I go take a look for the answer myself...). Quote
casimir Posted August 7, 2022 Posted August 7, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 4:43 PM, Tiger337 said: There is nothing wrong with being an optimist. It probably adds a couple of years to your life - the Tigers might finally be good in those years. Expand It would seem less likely that Avila would be the GM then, so, yes there could be some hope. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 Wow this thread will be a lot more interesting next year ehh? Quote
Edman85 Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 One thing I learned this week. Rounds 2-20 are still determined by reverse draft order. Quote
1984Echoes Posted September 1, 2022 Author Posted September 1, 2022 A month to go and we're in the 4th spot (pre-lottery)... Quote
1984Echoes Posted September 1, 2022 Author Posted September 1, 2022 On 8/4/2022 at 5:51 PM, Tiger337 said: Play like you're sick for a comp pick Expand Playing Sick to get that Comp Pick... Quote
gkelly Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 2:43 AM, 1984Echoes said: Oh... do you mean like Spencer Turnbull? Or Tarik Skubal? Or Ty Alexander? Beau Brieske? Kody Clemens? Dillon Dingler or Wenceel Perez (whoops, gotta wait another year for those two...)? Expand Most of these guys wouldn't be on the major league roster of any other team. While most of these guys are gritty and easy ones to pull for, that doesn't necessarily translate into quality major leaguers. Give me the primadonna stud ballplayer over the guys that grind and grind just to make it to the majors. If you are relying on those guys as your nucleus, you are probably in the situation the Tigers are in right now. If your top prospects turn out like Mize and Torkelson has so far, you might as well chalk up 90 to 100 losses right now. Quote
Longgone Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/3/2022 at 7:51 PM, gkelly said: If your top prospects turn out like Mize and Torkelson has so far, you might as well chalk up 90 to 100 losses right now. Expand We don't know how Mize and Torkelson are going to turn out. Making assumptions based on the initial adjustments to mlb is pointless. Quote
1984Echoes Posted September 18, 2022 Author Posted September 18, 2022 Nothing left of this season except the Lottery to determine where we draft... Currently tied for 3rd worst record... We haven't moved much at all in the standings the past two months... up or down. In the 3rd spot worst we can select is 6th, in the 4th spot worst we can select is 7th... So we'll have a draft spot next year between 1 and 7th it looks like... Something for the new GM whomever he or she may be... to show what their draft philosophy is... I hope it's not a college RH'ed reliever with a 100+ MPH straight fastball and control problems.... Quote
Nate7474 Posted September 18, 2022 Posted September 18, 2022 Not sure that's correct as it looks like you could slid up to 6 spots. At least if this site is correct in displaying the odds and playing with the calculator. https://www.tankathon.com/mlb/pick_odds Quote
1984Echoes Posted September 19, 2022 Author Posted September 19, 2022 A-Hah...! Right... that says the first 6 picks are lottery... I thought only the first 3 picks were... Quote
Shinzaki Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 First three have the same odds of winning Quote
apabruce Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) As has been true most of the season, Washington and Oakland look like a lock for bottom 2 in the standings. With the latest winning streak, the Tigers have overtaken Pittsburgh, the Reds, and KC. They are two games behind Miami and Colorado, each with 65 wins to the Tigers 63. It's not impossible that the Tigers could play their way out of the bottom six. On a side note, the Tigers, with 63 wins, are now guaranteed to have fewer than 100 losses. Edited September 30, 2022 by apabruce Quote
Cruzer1 Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Next year's draft is pretty strong at the top with position players, and Harris noted that he wants to get more athletic. He'll probably get a chance to improve the athleticism of the system with his first pick. https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/top-2023-mlb-draft-prospects/ Quote
Edman85 Posted September 30, 2022 Posted September 30, 2022 On 9/30/2022 at 5:00 PM, apabruce said: As has been true most of the season, Washington and Oakland look like a lock for bottom 2 in the standings. With the latest winning streak, the Tigers have overtaken Pittsburgh, the Reds, and KC. They are two games behind Miami and Colorado, each with 65 wins to the Tigers 63. It's not impossible that the Tigers could play their way out of the bottom six. On a side note, the Tigers, with 63 wins, are now guaranteed to have fewer than 100 losses. Expand Quote
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