On the Bright Side: 2023 MLB Draft

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

Santana was the most the Tigers had ever spent. QED.

I wonder if the investment and promise that Santana held had any impact on selecting Jobe over Mayer?

[Longgone]

1 hour ago, Tenacious D said:

I wonder if the investment and promise that Santana held had any impact on selecting Jobe over Mayer?

Shouldn't, take who has the higher grade. If it's a pitcher, fine, quality defender, fine. Trust your scouts. If players don't pan out, get better scouts.

[CMRivdogs]

MLB Pipeline (Jonathan Mayo)  has released their latest mock. They have the Pirates taking Skenes based on his performance at the College World Series.

The Nationals get Crews with Langford going to the Tigers...

 

[gehringer_2]

11 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

MLB Pipeline (Jonathan Mayo)  has released their latest mock. They have the Pirates taking Skenes based on his performance at the College World Series.

The Nationals get Crews with Langford going to the Tigers...

 

Pittsburgh is a traditional salary bottom feeder so there's some conventional wisdom that they would rather underslot the HS player. Ownership did spend a bunch of money on Bryan Reynolds, maybe they've changed their tack.

Edited June 23, 2023 by gehringer_2

[RedTeamGo!]

I just do not see how the Pirates can pass on Skenes. He looks like a true ace. Crews looks very good as well, but not like a generational talent or anything. If they select a HS kid with Skenes and Crews on the board they should just fold up shop and call it a day. Would be embarrassing.

With regard to the Tigers - gotta take Langford. 

If the Reds pass on Lowder for a catcher I will vomit. 

Edited June 23, 2023 by RedTeamGo!

[buddha]

On 6/22/2023 at 4:10 AM, Cruzer1 said:

Positional value is also very important in baseball. Though all of the years at the top of the draft, the Tigers have never taken a shortstop high in the draft.

how can you forget matt brunson?

[Shinzaki]

Was Nick Castellanos drafted as a SS?

[buddha]

matt brunson.  selected 9th in the 1993 draft.  right before the likes of billy wagner, chris carpenter, torii hunter, and jason varitek.

we were such a **** organization.

[buddha]

from 1992 to 2002 the tigers drafted 1 player who finished with over 20 WAR for them: bobby "you try and trade him" higginson.

inge was close.  weaver had a couple good years.

and that's it until granderson and then verlander under dd's watch.

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

from 1992 to 2002 the tigers drafted 1 player who finished with over 20 WAR for them: bobby "you try and trade him" higginson.

inge was close.  weaver had a couple good years.

and that's it until granderson and then verlander under dd's watch.

Shameful.  A lost decade of Tigers baseball.  The last 7 years of futility don’t come close to that misery, IMO.

[Tenacious D]

LSU (Crews) vs Florida (Langford) on ESPN right now. If LSU wins, they win the CWS.  If Florida wins, it goes to a deciding game, where I think Skenes would pitch.

[Hart]

This pick is as easy as the Torkelson and Mize picks (even those have not exactly worked out in our favor).  You take whoever falls to us between Crews, Langford, and Skenes.  We are very fortunate to be in the top three.  The only way the pick becomes difficult is if two of those three to fall to us.  

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, Hart said:

This pick is as easy as the Torkelson and Mize picks (even those have not exactly worked out in our favor).  You take whoever falls to us between Crews, Langford, and Skenes.  We are very fortunate to be in the top three.  The only way the pick becomes difficult is if two of those three to fall to us.  

I tend to agree with this.

[RatkoVarda]

Langford (5/5, 2 2b, HR, BB) and UF rock LSU 24-4 to set up G3

 

[chasfh]

If he doesn’t improves his instincts in the outfield, Langford might end up flipping bats with TORK! for who plays first and who DHs. 

[RatkoVarda]

Skenes threw 120 pitches Thursday; I assume he is pitching tonight

[LongLiveMaroth]

 

[kdog]

ESPN has the following:

1)Skenes

2)Crews

3) Tigers: Wyatt Langford...5-10% chance drafting Kyle Teel.

Edited June 26, 2023 by kdog

[gehringer_2]

Why would Skenes settle for under slot?

Maybe he needs to talk to Verlander's old man. 

Edited June 26, 2023 by gehringer_2

[RatkoVarda]

56 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Why would Skenes settle for under slot?

Maybe he needs to talk to Verlander's old man. 

agree. could be Crews is asking for $10M; Skenes at $9.5 would be "under" slot and more than he would get at #2.

1. Pirates: $9,721,000
2. Nationals: $8,998,500
3. Tigers: $8,341,700

[gehringer_2]

17 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

agree. could be Crews is asking for $10M; Skenes at $9.5 would be "under" slot and more than he would get at #2.

1. Pirates: $9,721,000
2. Nationals: $8,998,500
3. Tigers: $8,341,700

good point - it does depend on how far from #1 he thought he might fall if he doesn't offer a deal with the Pirates. It's hard not to be schizophrenic about drafting pitchers. You look at busts like Appel and injuries like Mize, but even with all that they are probaby more reliably projectable than hitters. Esp a guy like Skenes where the calling card is a great swing and miss fastball, unlike say Mize whose signature splitter ended up not playing all that well in the majors. The only thing with Skenes is you maybe wonder if he throws too hard - a la Zumaya, to where the physiology isn't goint to survive.

Edited June 26, 2023 by gehringer_2

[Dan Gilmore]

Or college arm abuse…paging Kenny Baugh…

[RatkoVarda]

LSU clubs UF to win it; seen some negative tweets about Crews' swing, and some about Langford's D, but what monster seasons from both in the best conference; threw in Teel

[gehringer_2]

42 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

LSU clubs UF to win it; seen some negative tweets about Crews' swing, and some about Langford's D, but what monster seasons from both in the best conference; threw in Teel

haven't seen any of them play but just looking at these numbers - relatively low # of doubles for Crews - pretty much a middle of the field hitter?

[Cruzer1]

I prefer Langford for the Tigers. I'd prefer him if they had the first pick.