On the Bright Side: 2023 MLB Draft

[RedTeamGo!]

Absolutely wild that Crews very well might drop to the Tigers. 

[RatkoVarda]

Tork still has the biggest bonus under the current system $8,416,300.

Bonus pools by club:
Pirates: $16,185,700
Tigers: $15,747,200 (they can go to 105% without penalty; an extra $787,360; $16,534,560 total)
Nationals: $14,502,400

1. Pirates: $9,721,000
2. Nationals: $8,998,500
3. Tigers: $8,341,700
4. Rangers: $7,698,000
5. Twins: $7,139,700

Offer Crews $9M (basically 2nd pick money) and he will take it.

[Scottwood]

It sounds like Pittsburgh is shopping an under slot deal to the other 4 big names and prefers a bat.  The guys at MLB.com seem to think Washington will take Skenes over Crews.

[LongLiveMaroth]

 

 

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

Tork still has the biggest bonus under the current system $8,416,300.

Bonus pools by club:
Pirates: $16,185,700
Tigers: $15,747,200 (they can go to 105% without penalty; an extra $787,360; $16,534,560 total)
Nationals: $14,502,400

1. Pirates: $9,721,000
2. Nationals: $8,998,500
3. Tigers: $8,341,700
4. Rangers: $7,698,000
5. Twins: $7,139,700

Offer Crews $9M (basically 2nd pick money) and he will take it.

The extra $787K penalty is a difference maker that should help woo a high schooler in a later round.

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said:

Absolutely wild that Crews very well might drop to the Tigers. 

Just like Marcelo Mayer! 
 

(too soon?)

[gehringer_2]

21 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

 

Then again, Crews is a Boras client. The Tigers seem to have a good enough relationship with Boras in general,  but even given that, you can not ignore that with Boras, if a young player does turn out to be good, someone you are going to want to lock up long term, the chances are going to be a lot worse of achieving that if he's a Boras client.

[Tiger337]

14 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Just like Marcelo Mayer! 
 

(too soon?)

Kyle Teel (just for the Twitter reaction)!

[Tenacious D]

I was looking at Harris’ first round picks with SF and he doesn’t seem to have a type or pattern that would help you predict what he might do.

[Toddwert]

48 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Kyle Teel (just for the Twitter reaction)!

That would be the Avila move

[Tenacious D]

Just now, Toddwert said:

That would be the Avila move

Harris drafted two college catchers in Joey Bart and Patrick Bailey.

[SoCalTiger]

Would we be ok with Clark if Crews was on the board ? 

[Toddwert]

1 minute ago, Tenacious D said:

Harris drafted two college catchers in Joey Bart and Patrick Bailey.

Were they the best players available? I would think one of 2 big bats would still be around

[casimir]

3 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Would we be ok with Clark if Crews was on the board ? 

Just draft a future hall of famer.  That’s all I’m asking with the pick.

[Toddwert]

3 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Would we be ok with Clark if Crews was on the board ? 

Isn’t Crews what you hope Clark turns into?

[RatkoVarda]

Just now, Toddwert said:

Isn’t Crews what you hope Clark turns into?

bingo

[Hart]

Thank goodness it seems Washington wants Skenes if he is available...to save the Tigers from making a big mistake and passing on one of the top three players for Teel.  

[Edman85]

17 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Harris drafted two college catchers in Joey Bart and Patrick Bailey.

Bart predated him by a couple years.

[Tenacious D]

5 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Bart predated him by a couple years.

I was being lazy and assumed he was there for Bart, but looks like you are correct.

[Edman85]

Hard to really say Harris was the guy making the call in those drafts though... Zaidi was running the show. You can probably get some clue from Metzler/Conner and their histories.

But looking at pool strategy is going to give you a bit more clue than demographics of who happened to fall to them in the first roudn.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Edman85

[Shinzaki]

Tigers pick 3rd...there are three players that are above the rest of the field and they're presumably close to MLB ready.  Deviating from those guys would be F**k up a free lunch level of dumb

[RandyMarsh]

I have read more than one report that says that Clark and Jenkins may have the highest upside of any players in the draft and I believe it was Law who said if he had to pick one player from the class to win multiple MVPs it would be Clark so in the end those two very well may end up being the best of the bunch but with that said I still would much prefer having the closer and more sure thing in Crews/Langford even if the upside isn't as high.

If we were in the Rangers shoes who are picking 4th where we already have a stacked roster and should be competitive for the foreseeable future I may be more open to taking a chance on the younger potentially higher upside pick but we're certainly not in that position. 

[kdog]

I’m asking Harris and the brain trust to keep this simple. Don’t galaxy brain this years draft process.

[RandyMarsh]

I will never understand why teams are so worried about potentially getting guys with picks at 37 and 45 when history has shown that just a tiny fraction of them amount to anything anyway. To me it's a no brainer, you do what it takes to sign the number 1 prospect in the draft, if it means that you in turn have to take a lesser prospect with 37 and 45 who gives a crap. Basically I'd rather take the lesser player in rounds 2 and 3 than the lesser one in round 1, especially when the consensus shows that there is a clear tier difference between said prospects. 

[Edman85]

4 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I will never understand why teams are so worried about potentially getting guys with picks at 37 and 45 when history has shown that just a tiny fraction of them amount to anything anyway. To me it's a no brainer, you do what it takes to sign the number 1 prospect in the draft, if it means that you in turn have to take a lesser prospect with 37 and 45 who gives a crap. Basically I'd rather take the lesser player in rounds 2 and 3 than the lesser one in round 1, especially when the consensus shows that there is a clear tier difference between said prospects. 

 

Well, if you have some guys in mind with numbers and you have to blow past your #1 slot to sign Crews, it can blow the rest of your draft up and potentially risk going over the 5% overage limit if you aren't careful. In short, those concerns are more about making sure your whole draft doesn't blow up and end up losing next year's #1 pick.