08/11/2022 1:10 EDT Cleveland Guardians at Detroit Tigers

[casimir]

42 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

I have not been listening, but watching the games...is he injured?  If so sure.

The team blows, all the players are playing well below what they should be playing at...all the kids who deserved a shot got one, Miggy is still Miggy.

Miggy is not still Miggy.  You just said you haven’t been paying attention, so I guess you wouldn’t realize how awful he is now.

[Dtrain72]

aLL STarR!!1!

[pyrotigers]

It's nice of Soto to immediately turn to garbage after not being traded, just to rub it in 

[Dtrain72]

[Tigermojo]

We scored 3 runs and only allowed 3 unearned runs. Progress!

[John_Brian_K]

24 minutes ago, casimir said:

Miggy is not still Miggy.  You just said you haven’t been paying attention, so I guess you wouldn’t realize how awful he is now.

I watch just about every game.  I said I have not been LISTENING as much...ie all the talk etc.  As far as I know his name is still Miguel Cabrera.  Also everyone else blows..he blows...just not as much.

[RatkoVarda]

untalented team that plays bad = lots of losses

[buddha]

"its malpractice not to bring up carpenter!!!!!"

0-8 with 6 ks.

[Jim Cowan]

27 minutes ago, buddha said:

"its malpractice not to bring up carpenter!!!!!"

0-8 with 6 ks.

Still worthwhile to bring him up and take a look.

[Sports_Freak]

14 strikeouts and 3 errors won't win you many games. I guess I'm glad I forgot it was a day game.

[mtutiger]

3 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Still worthwhile to bring him up and take a look.

It's a lost season... one without the old GM who picked all these players.

Now is about the most ideal time possible to start bringing guys up and giving them a look before a new GM takes over.

[buddha]

12 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Still worthwhile to bring him up and take a look.

maybe.  maybe not.

its also too early to tell.  

[Tiger337]

43 minutes ago, buddha said:

"its malpractice not to bring up carpenter!!!!!"

0-8 with 6 ks.

Another example of scouts knowing more than fans reading minor league boxscores?  

Edited August 11, 2022 by Tiger337

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Another example of scouts knowing more than fans reading minor league boxscores?  

More like the fans know what they are gonna see in Daz Cameron and want to see something else.

[buddha]

23 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Another example of scouts knowing more than fans reading minor league boxscores?  

see also baddoo, akil and clemens, kody

[gehringer_2]

Whether the scouts have a good take on the guy at the point Carpenter reached is pretty much irrelevant. If a guy has an OPS >1000, there isn't much he going to gain from looking at more AAA pitching - so he's either going to break through or not. Either way once he's no longer challenged at AAA there really is nothing more to do other give him his shot and see what happens. Your development system doesn't exist for the benefit of AAA, it exists to determine if the guy can make it or not.

In Kody's case, his minor league clock is running out - same deal, you have to prove what you do or don't have. In Baddoo's case, I'd have been fine with him staying in Toledo until he had proven more. My complaint with the handling of Baddoo is that wherever you have him, he needs to be playing every day

Edited August 11, 2022 by gehringer_2

[Jim Cowan]

Yes and as noted before it was dumb to bring up Baddoo and make him sit on the bench.

[mtutiger]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Whether the scouts have a good take on the guy at point Carpenter reached is pretty much irrelevant. If a guy has an OPS >1000, there isn't much he going to gain from looking at more AAA pitching - so he's either going to break through or not. Either way once he's no longer challenged at AAA there really is nothing more to do that give him his shot and see what happens. Your development system doesn't exist for the benefit of AAA, it exists to determine if the guy can make it or not.

And again, this team is now 27 games under .500. I dont know many fans that expected Kerry Carpenter to be great upon reaching the majors, but with the GM who built this team now gone, there may not be a time where there is as little cost to purchase a contract and a give a guy a look as there is now. Whether it's Carpenter or Kreidler or Brendon Davis or whoever.

We all know what we have in Daz Cameron. There's literally no harm in looking at someone else, as the Tigers Player Development folks have clearly signaled at this point.

[buddha]

27 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

More like the fans know what they are gonna see in Daz Cameron and want to see something else.

yay, we get to see a DIFFERENT guy strike out 3 times a game.

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

yay, we get to see a DIFFERENT guy strike out 3 times a game.

This. But unironically.

[romad1]

If Sam Menzin and AJ are doing transactions and Al is no longer in the loop…we need to figure out who to cut loose so they can go on to become MVP of the National League.

[microline133]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Another example of scouts knowing more than fans reading minor league boxscores?  

That never happens, Lee. I don't know what you are talking about!

[mtutiger]

At the end of the day, it was the Tigers organization that ultimately called Carpenter up.

Surprised AJ isn't getting any criticism for calling him up, tbh.

[SoCalTiger]

Let’s say we give Carpenter more than two games despite the early eye sore. 

[1776]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

Tigers Player Development

Oxymoron