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08/12/2022 7:10 EDT Detroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox


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3 hours ago, buddha said:

then put him on the IL if he's hurt.  

five years ago miggy isnt beating that out either.  miggy has been slow as fuck for almost a decade.

 

Or just reduce him to: pinch hitting only.

If he gets a game-winning single then more cheers for Miggy...

And if he hits the game ending grounder that every other Tom, Dick & Harry would've beaten out because the defense booted the ball, well, then... oh well.

And he doesn't need to pinch hit every game either. 2-3 times a week...

The IL if they want to get Daz more PA's (what other RH'er do we actually have that's ready?) Or wait for September call-ups to add a couple more players and just keep Miggy as a PH'er...

I would prefer the IL...

Just thinking up some alternatives out loud... because who knows what the team is actually thinking...?

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3 hours ago, sabretooth said:

Hey I love old timers games as much as the next guy.

Lets bring back Pudge, Polanco, Guillen, Inge, Grandy.  C-Mo and Thames can suit up too.  

Nate can bring the Big League Chew, Kenny can bring whatever green stuff he needs for better grip.

I actually would rather watch these guys play and old timers game than to see Miggy continue with the actual club.

Is Rozema still pitching at the fantasy camps?  The Tigers might need him before the season is up.

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14 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Rick Porcello is always available!  Same age as Wily Perlata and Jose Cisnero.  

Would he oblige while knowing that the Tigers would just move him to the bullpen for the playoffs?

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22 hours ago, casimir said:

It got all used up last season.

Here are a sampling of some of the more impactful ways *I believe* that successful managers seem to distinguish themselves:

1. influence the FO to fill out the roster with supporting players that fit his bench/bullpen philosophy/style.

2. manage the bullpen.  The success or failure of the bullpen seems to be as clear a representation of the GM/manager relationship and of the Managers skill as anything in baseball

3. manage player egos and influence the clubs persona/attitude

4. avoid major mistakes and stay ahead of risks and opportunities to the teams cohesiveness and health.

Hinch seems to be really good at 1. and 2., much much better than Ausmus or Gardy.

But things have gotten way out of control in 3. and 4. (cheating in HOU, implosion of hitting and injuries in 2022). 

I dont know if the epic bad hitting and injuries are *actually* his fault, but it certainly seems reasonable to suggest that they could be/are his fault and/or his staff.

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15 hours ago, sabretooth said:

Here are a sampling of some of the more impactful ways *I believe* that successful managers seem to distinguish themselves:

1. influence the FO to fill out the roster with supporting players that fit his bench/bullpen philosophy/style.

2. manage the bullpen.  The success or failure of the bullpen seems to be as clear a representation of the GM/manager relationship and of the Managers skill as anything in baseball

3. manage player egos and influence the clubs persona/attitude

4. avoid major mistakes and stay ahead of risks and opportunities to the teams cohesiveness and health.

Hinch seems to be really good at 1. and 2., much much better than Ausmus or Gardy.

But things have gotten way out of control in 3. and 4. (cheating in HOU, implosion of hitting and injuries in 2022). 

I dont know if the epic bad hitting and injuries are *actually* his fault, but it certainly seems reasonable to suggest that they could be/are his fault and/or his staff.

I'm not sure how much a manager can have an impact on 4.  Obviously if they aren't careful with rest and days off and such, they can burn players up.  I'm not sure how much Hinch/Fetter have to do with the pitching injuries that we've seen.  It could be a very flukey situation.  It could have something to do with workload (game prep counts here also).  It could have something to do with conditioning (not sure what the training staff reporting structure is with respect to the coaching staff).  I would be interested to know how that works.

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3 hours ago, casimir said:

I'm not sure how much a manager can have an impact on 4.  Obviously if they aren't careful with rest and days off and such, they can burn players up.  I'm not sure how much Hinch/Fetter have to do with the pitching injuries that we've seen.  It could be a very flukey situation.  It could have something to do with workload (game prep counts here also).  It could have something to do with conditioning (not sure what the training staff reporting structure is with respect to the coaching staff).  I would be interested to know how that works.

I would really like to know as well.  

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