2022 Michigan Football

[Hongbit]

I’m hearing that when pressed by investigators on what happened, Harbaugh told them they needed to talk to someone named Botha.    

[MichiganCardinal]

  On 1/6/2023 at 4:30 AM, MichiganCardinal said:

I'll wait to see what the allegations are, but my first general thought is that college football is stupid. I'm pretty sure that that would be my first thought if it was MSU or OSU too.

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20 hours later this remains my first and foremost thought.

[gehringer_2]

  On 1/7/2023 at 1:23 AM, MichiganCardinal said:

20 hours later this remains my first and foremost thought.

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and it gets more stupid by the day. But they don't pay him millions of bucks to tilt at NCAA windmills, they pay him to win and to not have stuff like this happen. 

[buddha]

  On 1/6/2023 at 11:37 PM, Hongbit said:

The joke is lying to investigators about a super minor offense and turning the entire situation into a level 1 infraction. What an arrogant dumbass move.  

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lol.  

if this were any other school but michigan, you wouldnt care.

[buddha]

  On 1/7/2023 at 1:31 AM, gehringer_2 said:

and it gets more stupid by the day. But they don't pay him millions of bucks to tilt at NCAA windmills, they pay him to win and to not have stuff like this happen. 

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why do you hate harbaugh so much?  all you do on this site is bitch about him.

[gehringer_2]

  On 1/7/2023 at 1:44 AM, buddha said:

why do you hate harbaugh so much?  all you do on this site is bitch about him.

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I've given him his due when he has won and on the fact that he generally does right by his players.  But he's also a grade 1-A nut job and it never seems to be more than a matter of time between his descents into stupidity, whether it's via twitter, in his play calling, his juvenile insults of other people, the recurring Hamlet act,  or now a potentially more consequential bit of stupidity like this.

Do you disagree that a primary piece of the job description at Michigan is exactly not to end up where they are now? That's part of the performance review at UM just like wins and losses. You can argue the system is flawed and stupid and I'll give you 100% agreement, but that is the system he's paid to toe the line in.

Edited January 7, 2023 by gehringer_2

[MichiganCardinal]

Part of me thinks he should have just shaken hands and made fake apologies like a good little boy… Another part of me gets it. It’s the same part of me that would have been a wise ass to a mall cop and told them to come back with a warrant as a teenager.

A coach of a D1 program should probably take the former approach.

I don’t think the program actually cares about being holier than thou anymore though. Maybe as an idealistic version of themselves, but they put themselves in the greater world of athletic success > image when they slapped Juwan on the wrist.

[Motor City Sonics]

The NCAA is a cesspool.    Having them discipline teams is like having a corporation do their own investigation into a faulty part or a dangerous side effect.        But still,  don't lie, don't cover up.    Don't go all Nixon on 'em.  

[Deleterious]

 

[Hongbit]

Would be shocked if the decision is to go pro.  He will make more money at UM in NIL than in the NFL next year.  

[MichiganCardinal]

  On 1/9/2023 at 6:18 PM, Hongbit said:

Would be shocked if the decision is to go pro.  He will make more money at UM in NIL than in the NFL next year.  

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I don't think he would announce a plan to go pro on Rich Eisen. Rich Eisen is a Michigan Man where you go to announce you're returning.

[CMRivdogs]

Corum is staying according to my Twitter feed

[MichiganCardinal]

They should be preseason Top Five.

[romad1]

Love this for Team 144.   I just need the Harbaugh contract extension announcement

[lordstanley]

  On 1/9/2023 at 8:23 PM, MichiganCardinal said:

They should be preseason Top Five.

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Toughest game on the schedule might be at Penn St. I wonder if they would have had interest in McNamara if he hadn’t gone to Iowa. 

[RandyMarsh]

Hopefully Edwards doesn't decide to enter the portal now that Corrum is back. 

[buddha]

this really is a return to levels michigan hasnt seen in a long long time.

its really a return to where they were for much of the 70s and 80s under Bo.  great teams, but never the best and usually just a rung below the national elite teams.

now its georgia and alabama, just as it used to be nebraska/oklahoma/usc, and then florida state and miami.

[Hongbit]

  On 1/10/2023 at 4:12 PM, buddha said:

this really is a return to levels michigan hasnt seen in a long long time.

its really a return to where they were for much of the 70s and 80s under Bo.  great teams, but never the best and usually just a rung below the national elite teams.

now its georgia and alabama, just as it used to be nebraska/oklahoma/usc, and then florida state and miami.

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Any concern about giving up 51 points in a playoff game to a team that turned around and scored 7 the next week?  On both sides of the ball UM didn’t look nearly as physical as they were perceived to as they were playing their B1G schedule.    I guess it’s shifted and they are speedy finesse team and not quite as physical as the expectations of a Michigan team.  There’s nothing wrong with that and you can win that way until you run against an SEC team that is physical on both lines and fast everywhere else.  

 

[buddha]

  On 1/10/2023 at 4:36 PM, Hongbit said:

Any concern about giving up 51 points in a playoff game to a team that turned around and scored 7 the next week?  On both sides of the ball UM didn’t look nearly as physical as they were perceived to as they were playing their B1G schedule.    I guess it’s shifted and they are speedy finesse team and not quite as physical as the expectations of a Michigan team.  There’s nothing wrong with that and you can win that way until you run against an SEC team that is physical on both lines and fast everywhere else.  

 

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michigan's poor performance in a bowl game is a return to the past!

everything about that tcu game was ridiculous.

i think the defense is less of a strength than the offense.  their defense has been set up to beat ohio state and has been able to do that.  other than that, they werent really challenged until tcu and that went rather poorly but might be more of a one off than anything else.

the offense, otoh, should be excellent again and should have put up 70 on tcu.

im more worried about this year's fall off in recruiting anf their inability to use the nil money cannon theyre sitting on.  and ultimately, the real concern is harbaugh leaving or continuing to flirt with leaving.

[gehringer_2]

  On 1/10/2023 at 4:52 PM, buddha said:

im more worried about this year's fall off in recruiting anf their inability to use the nil money cannon theyre sitting on.

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I heard somebody, maybe  Bacon, say they had $6-7 million in NIL lined up. Supposedly the story was that OSU spent $13 million  last season.

[buddha]

[lordstanley]

So if he gets fired and then an NFL job calls through, is sitting in his couch at home part of The Field?

 

[gehringer_2]

  On 1/9/2023 at 9:29 PM, romad1 said:

Love this for Team 144.   I just need the Harbaugh contract extension announcement

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Harbaugh has been known to go for 4th downs and miss. Sort of like if in the end none of the NFL teams offer and Warde leans back in his chair, smiling and says "Jim, I think your current deal suits you just fine."

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[romad1]

Much made of the fact that Harbaugh retained Tom Mars as his legal rep for the NCAA violation allegations.  Why do that if you were not staying?  Also, Sam Webb reports two different dynamics in the negotiations: Agents highlighting the interest from the NFL as a bargaining chip and Santa Ono being a diplomatic and oil-on-the-waters element of negotiations.

I would say that the indications are that Harbaugh wants to stay but needs the wasta of an increase in pay to go forward. 

[buddha]

  On 1/11/2023 at 11:30 AM, romad1 said:

Much made of the fact that Harbaugh retained Tom Mars as his legal rep for the NCAA violation allegations.  Why do that if you were not staying?  Also, Sam Webb reports two different dynamics in the negotiations: Agents highlighting the interest from the NFL as a bargaining chip and Santa Ono being a diplomatic and oil-on-the-waters element of negotiations.

I would say that the indications are that Harbaugh wants to stay but needs the wasta of an increase in pay to go forward. 

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he interviewed for the broncos job already.