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digitalpigsmuggler Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Quote President Zelenskyy’s answer to this question is clear; he’s committed to recapturing every inch of Ukraine that’s been occupied by Russian forces, as well as Crimea. He’s even stated that he refuses to enter peace talks unless Russia withdraws from the Crimean Peninsula. Is this what President Biden means when he says for as long as it takes? If so, then we need to brace the American people for a long and bloody conflict in which U.S. soldiers will have to fight. Ukraine has no hope of recapturing Crimea without direct U.S. military involvement, and the peninsula is a bright red line for Putin Quote In fact, the unexpected consequences of Putin’s war are already taking effect. The increasingly intimate relationship between China and Russia is just one example, as their energy relationship has almost single-handedly allowed Moscow to finance its invasion. Quote we need to demand more accountability for the billions of taxpayer dollars committed to this effort. An obvious place to start is Ukrainian government employee and teacher pensions, which are currently being financed by U.S. taxpayer dollars https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/met-zelenskyy-ukraine-told-him-shift-strategy-4-ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, romad1 said: “Leak” is unauthorized disclosure in the service of this sociopathic traitor’s support of the Putin agenda. In this case, yes. Generally you can shorten up what you're saying to describe other times when classified information was put out by someone: “Leak” is unauthorized disclosure So re-reading my original post, can you tell me how or why you found me saying 'leak' offensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Interesting development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Just now, ewsieg said: In this case, yes. Generally you can shorten up what you're saying to describe other times when classified information was put out by someone: “Leak” is unauthorized disclosure So re-reading my original post, can you tell me how or why you found me saying 'leak' offensive? Soft pedaling the treason. Just because you support the objective of unauthorized disclosures doesn’t make it less treasonous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, romad1 said: Soft pedaling the treason. Just because you support the objective of unauthorized disclosures doesn’t make it less treasonous. Dude, saying the documents were leaked doesn't mean I support the unauthorized disclosures or support some objective you believe I have in regards to them. I never said that. It was illegal, that guy should be severely punished for the harm he's done. But the information is now out there. If you're upset with me following media reports about what was in the docs, that's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 awww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Dude, saying the documents were leaked doesn't mean I support the unauthorized disclosures or support some objective you believe I have in regards to them. I never said that. It was illegal, that guy should be severely punished for the harm he's done. But the information is now out there. If you're upset with me following media reports about what was in the docs, that's ridiculous. Yes, repeatedly remarking on the information as true or possibly true supports the objective of the espionage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Just now, romad1 said: Yes, repeatedly remarking on the information as true or possibly true supports the objective of the espionage. Hence why you need a 'state run' insignia. The media has the right to report on it. The people should understand that the documents can not be authenticated and take the information with a grain of salt, and it should be reported that way, which I have seen on the very little bit of reporting on the information itself. The part I referenced from the leaked docs also had other reporting supporting the same issue prior to the documents being found so I personally do believe that is a concern. While it would be easier for Biden and your agency to have everyone blindly follow our dear leader and truly believe we have no concerns, because everything is perfect and we shouldn't worry about anything, is ironically what you want for yourself, yet say is the most important thing for us to fight against in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Hence why you need a 'state run' insignia. The media has the right to report on it. The people should understand that the documents can not be authenticated and take the information with a grain of salt, and it should be reported that way, which I have seen on the very little bit of reporting on the information itself. The part I referenced from the leaked docs also had other reporting supporting the same issue prior to the documents being found so I personally do believe that is a concern. While it would be easier for Biden and your agency to have everyone blindly follow our dear leader and truly believe we have no concerns, because everything is perfect and we shouldn't worry about anything, is ironically what you want for yourself, yet say is the most important thing for us to fight against in Ukraine. The most important thing to fight against in Ukraine is the Russians. They know that they can always count on the ego of useful fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: F-16 Fighters ‘Sitting Ducks’ For Russian Missiles; US Air Force Pilot Says https://eurasiantimes.com/f-16-fighters-jet-sitting-ducks-for-russian-missiles-us-air-force/ LOL. This is a reach - sounds more like a backhanded sales pitch for Eurofighters. The F-16 is operated in more places than probably any western fighter aircraft. If its FOD issue are marginally worse than say, an F15 (and FOD is an issue for every jet engine), whatever its limitations, it's a platform that dozens of countries, including ones with lots of sand blowing around, have managed quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, romad1 said: The most important thing to fight against in Ukraine is the Russians. They know that they can always count on the ego of useful fools. It might make our leaders job a bit more difficult, but I'm going to support a free media to report on anything that shows up in public. I personally feel that's a big reason that sets us apart from the likes of Russia and I think that's a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Two Canadians who went to fight for Ukraine killed in Russian attack https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-two-canadians-who-went-to-fight-for-ukraine-killed-in-russian-attack/ Former US Marine killed in Ukraine https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/europe/ukraine-former-us-marine-killed-intl/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 The Russians could stand to invest a few more Rubles into special effects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 The provocation appears designed to rile up the Russian public for mobilization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 minute ago, romad1 said: The provocation appears designed to rile up the Russian public for mobilization. Lots of video available very quickly of this event makes it pretty clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: It might make our leaders job a bit more difficult, but I'm going to support a free media to report on anything that shows up in public. I personally feel that's a big reason that sets us apart from the likes of Russia and I think that's a good thing. A free media which includes Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson and is happy to amplify Kremlin dogma. But i repeat myself when i said useful fools. Edited May 3, 2023 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: Kremlin Says Putin Survived Overnight Assassination Attempt https://uk.news.yahoo.com/kremlin-says-putin-survived-overnight-114602738.html? Again, I should be horrified by this why, exactly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, chasfh said: Again, I should be horrified by this why, exactly? Zelenskyy survives nightly assassination attempts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, romad1 said: The provocation appears designed to rile up the Russian public for mobilization. It's a measure of both the Russian sense of projection and their misunderstand the Ukrainians that assassination attempt is their first reading. Listen to any of the Ukrainian leadership, unlike we Americans who focus on personality, they don't care about Putin at all. They see Putin as simply the organic and thus likely completely reproducible product of the state of Russian society. If this drone was Ulrainian - and of course given Putin's amply demonstrated willing to kill and create chaos to gin up public sentiment who knows? - they certainly weren't trying to kill Putin - they were just sending Moscovites Spring greetings. Edited May 3, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 This is very funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, chasfh said: Again, I should be horrified by this why, exactly? The only disappointment is that it didn’t work/never happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Lots of video available very quickly of this event makes it pretty clear. Do they have CGI in Russia? The production quality was on par with a Roger Moore 007 movie.... maybe lower lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 if Russia is going to hit him tonight it will be on NATO territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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