gehringer_2 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Prigozhin apparently has two identical planes. Do we have more than the Russians' word they got the right one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, romad1 said: Putin just sent a message to Lindsay Graham and Trump I doubt they'll interpret it the same way. Trump is probably thinking "damn, that is so cool, can I do that?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Looks like it might have been a two for.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Things might be getting spicy again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, MIguy said: Things might be getting spicy again. Russian CIVIL WAR!!! (v 5.0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 So the thing I am really curious about is who controls the Wagner bank accounts now? Did Prigozhin have them under his personal control? If so did he leave anyone some kind of lock box designed to open in case of his death. He had to anticipate that Putin would do him in and I find it even harder to believe he had made Putin his co-holder to Wagner's various enterprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Public execution, with an acceptable bit of collateral damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Yes. Do not trust this snake. Cut off its head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewsieg Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 14 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: So the thing I am really curious about is who controls the Wagner bank accounts now? Did Prigozhin have them under his personal control? If so did he leave anyone some kind of lock box designed to open in case of his death. He had to anticipate that Putin would do him in and I find it even harder to believe he had made Putin his co-holder to Wagner's various enterprises. Has anyone heard about why he was in Moscow? Sounds like he's been in St. Petersburg for quite, possibly he felt safe enough to travel to Moscow, possibly after being asked to come? Putin is a monster, but he's smart too. I suspect the reason why he lived for so long was the fact that Putin wanted to make sure Russia controlled Wagner prior to eliminating Prigozhin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Will this plane land successfully on its wheels on a runway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Per my radio on my Lunch trip back to the house from work heard that the US gov says it was a SAM hitting Prigozhin's just Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, romad1 said: Per my radio on my Lunch trip back to the house from work heard that the US gov says it was a SAM hitting Prigozhin's just Captain Obvious takes the wheel for the Uncle Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Captain Obvious takes the wheel for the Uncle Sam. TBH, been too focused on starting the fastpitch season here to be watching much news. Priorities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, romad1 said: Per my radio on my Lunch trip back to the house from work heard that the US gov says it was a SAM hitting Prigozhin's just It was on Youtube yesterday. They already have a video of the SAM taking out his jet and you can watch the jet fall from the sky all the way down (not quite ground as theres' too much distance in the video but it goes behind some buildings in the distance and then you can see the fireball and smoke rising behind that distant building...) with the missile smoke trail going right through and beyond the jet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Watching CNN right now and officials are saying they have not confirmed why the plane crashed and have no evidence it was a missile. If I was guessing, I would think Putin would have wanted explosives to be placed on the plane rather than ordering a missile launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 The full video shows the SAM missile trail and the plane trail as it's falling, with the intersection (not the actual hit, but the two trails intersecting...). I may be wrong... But I don't believe I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 This can’t be right https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1695718646713065846?s=46&t=76Y1aNflZsD8yrwQrvLC2g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I've read this guy's tweets on occassion. They are as busy as a Seth Abramson thread but in less space. However, this one is very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Um, what the actualy hell is this about? I can think of multiple historical examples of large scale mechanized operations (e.g., Desert Storm, OIF). The difference was total air dominance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 https://x.com/asforcesmag/status/1696189607421825310?s=46&t=76Y1aNflZsD8yrwQrvLC2g no kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 This is something. Russia lost hundreds of dollars worth of aviation in this attack Kidding of course. These aircraft and others like them are very valuable in hauling mercenaries to Africa to sow chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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