romad1 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Finally we have ATACMS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, romad1 said: Finally we have ATACMS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 positive development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, romad1 said: positive development Kyvv advising Ukrainian citizens to get out of Crimea. I'm sure that's part pysops, but it could also mean an attempt to take down the Kerch bridge is imminent. It's the inevitable step. Edited September 24, 2023 by gehringer_2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 This feels like a big story that won’t surprise but will impact many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 interesting read: https://warontherocks.com/2023/09/biting-off-what-it-can-chew-ukraine-understands-its-attritional-context/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: interesting read: https://warontherocks.com/2023/09/biting-off-what-it-can-chew-ukraine-understands-its-attritional-context/ Interesting. I was never in the military, but one thing that I suspect is overblown in this article though is the centralized vs decentralized context. It's not like the old days where it might take a day to get a message back to the general about changes at the front line, it's real time. My uncle has mentioned to me that they would get real time feedback from morning raids in Iraq that resulted in changes in how they did afternoon raids. Low level leaders were still able to make changes, even if the overall directive didn't change right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Interesting. I was never in the military, but one thing that I suspect is overblown in this article though is the centralized vs decentralized context. It's not like the old days where it might take a day to get a message back to the general about changes at the front line, it's real time. My uncle has mentioned to me that they would get real time feedback from morning raids in Iraq that resulted in changes in how they did afternoon raids. Low level leaders were still able to make changes, even if the overall directive didn't change right away. Yeah - there were several comments after the post to the effect that the US Mil does have the capability to push initiative back down the CoC. But I was more interested in the Ukraine end of the story; the argument that Ukraine is probably matching tactics to conditions in a more optimal way than many have given them credit for recently. Even Michael Kofman, one of the primary WOTR writers, has in the past noted lack of larger scale combined arms action by Ukraine as a failing/limitation Edited September 28, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Excellent article... Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 18 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: interesting read: https://warontherocks.com/2023/09/biting-off-what-it-can-chew-ukraine-understands-its-attritional-context/ Interesting for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 if only there were not nuclear weapons involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 Everybody going into a war always says it will be over and they will win within a matter of hours, or days, or weeks at the most. Nobody ever says we're going to war and it's going to be a slog for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Everybody going into a war always says it will be over and they will win within a matter of hours, or days, or weeks at the most. Nobody ever says we're going to war and it's going to be a slog for years. or 2 decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 well, dur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Yea, sure. Edited October 5, 2023 by CMRivdogs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, romad1 said: well, dur And he has not already been doing all of this how, exactly? Edited October 5, 2023 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 BTW, to be clear, pro-Russian political party = the Republican Party, aka the party of Joe McCarthy. This is what America has evolved into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 If he blabbed about Submarine tech...imagine what he'd blab about Iron Dome 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 The fact is currently it is unfunded and was specifically removed from CR just passed and there's no way to do anything about it or Israel in CO guess right now. That you happen to be optimistic about the funding is tangential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, romad1 said: If he blabbed about Submarine tech...imagine what he'd blab about Iron Dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, romad1 said: If he blabbed about Submarine tech...imagine what he'd blab about Iron Dome Wait, so he did get intelligence briefings and when he did he paid attention to them now? Also, our intelligence would give the president details on how to bypass the Iron Dome and not just a high level concern about the Iron Dome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: Wait, so he did get intelligence briefings and when he did he paid attention to them now? Also, our intelligence would give the president details on how to bypass the Iron Dome and not just a high level concern about the Iron Dome? The briefings were probably spliced with porn and snuff films so he’d pay attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 hours ago, pfife said: The fact is currently it is unfunded and was specifically removed from CR just passed and there's no way to do anything about it or Israel in CO guess right now. That you happen to be optimistic about the funding is tangential. Ukraine is not unfunded. That's laughable. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/06/us/politics/ukraine-aid-congress.html#:~:text=How much has the United,gone to the Defense Department. Contracts have already been finalized that will continue to send arms to Ukraine for years. If needed, we'll do a little "accounting" as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 paywalled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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