Where Do Things End With Vlad? (h/t romad1)

[mtutiger]

  On 11/22/2024 at 4:55 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

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Pretty sure the bluechecks are the ones obsessed with other people's genitalia on Elon's iteration of the app

Edited November 23, 2024 by mtutiger

[pfife]

LOL at being on twitter talkin about wangs with the fellas

[romad1]

https://bsky.app/profile/darthputinkgb.bsky.social/post/3lbrdhhoh6k25

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Darth Putin

‪@darthputinkgb.bsky.social‬

 

Your leaders may call this a “hybrid attack”. That’s cos if they called it an “attack”, they’d be expected to do something about it.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/25/dhl-cargo-plane-crashes-near-lithuania-airport

Darth's account might be snarky but I think he's right to point out all the sabotage the Russians are pulling in Europe.

[Tigeraholic1]

So many American lives wasted. F our government….
 

 

[gehringer_2]

  On 11/27/2024 at 2:34 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

So many American lives wasted. F our government….

 

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Even the Russians will likely eventually regret getting in bed with those creeps.

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 11/27/2024 at 2:39 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Even the Russians will likely eventually regret getting in bed with those creeps.

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Well they did not learn much from the 80's did they? However, now we have the N Korea, Iran, Afgahn, Russia good ol boys club.

[CMRivdogs]

  On 11/27/2024 at 3:16 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Well they did not learn much from the 80's did they? However, now we have the N Korea, Iran, Afgahn, Russia good ol boys club.

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Don't look now but there may be a new member of that club come 1/21. 

[romad1]

Seeing Zelensky say he'd end conflict in exchange for NATO status.   Yes, I'd take that deal.  It would guarantee the survival of Ukraine as a state and it would move NATO armies into his territory to prevent future war with Russia. 

 

Am doubting Putin takes that deal with Trump and his gang of Russophiles are inbound.

Edited November 30, 2024 by romad1

[chasfh]

  On 11/27/2024 at 3:37 PM, CMRivdogs said:

Don't look now but there may be a new member of that club come 1/21. 

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Cue the “better to have them inside the tent” analogy from red hats.

[chasfh]

  On 11/30/2024 at 1:57 AM, romad1 said:

Seeing Zelensky say he'd end conflict in exchange for NATO status.   Yes, I'd take that deal.  It would guarantee the survival of Ukraine as a state and it would move NATO armies into his territory to prevent future war with Russia. 

 

Am doubting Putin takes that deal with Trump and his gang of Russophiles are inbound.

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If Putin does take the deal, that might mean Trump has already promised Putin we’re pulling out of NATO and starting a new military alliance with Russia.

[romad1]

  On 11/30/2024 at 12:56 PM, chasfh said:

If Putin does take the deal, that might mean Trump has already promised Putin we’re pulling out of NATO and starting a new military alliance with Russia.

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John Thune is going to be the pivot point of history.  Lets hope the man is up to the task.   Nobody in the GOP who has stood up to him thus far has prospered politically so...

[romad1]

This seems promising

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4517922-thune-on-ukraine-america-cannot-retreat-from-the-world-stage/

[chasfh]

  On 11/30/2024 at 1:01 PM, romad1 said:

This seems promising

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4517922-thune-on-ukraine-america-cannot-retreat-from-the-world-stage/

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How ****ty is it that he even had to say that?

[romad1]

  On 11/30/2024 at 2:35 PM, chasfh said:

How ****ty is it that he even had to say that?

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Boiler plate GOP position on foreign policy previous to 2015

[ewsieg]

  On 11/30/2024 at 1:57 AM, romad1 said:

Seeing Zelensky say he'd end conflict in exchange for NATO status.   Yes, I'd take that deal.  It would guarantee the survival of Ukraine as a state and it would move NATO armies into his territory to prevent future war with Russia. 

 

Am doubting Putin takes that deal with Trump and his gang of Russophiles are inbound.

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I would be very interested in knowing how this deal compares to the one Boris Johnson squashed at the behest of all western governments.  

I am not saying I trust Trump and/or Putin, but I don't think Putin completely trusts Trump either.  I very well could see Trump telling Putin to accept some deal and if Putin doesn't, Trump flipping his script immediately and fully backing Ukraine too.  Putin is a smart man, but smart doesn't always beat crazy.

[chasfh]

  On 12/1/2024 at 2:47 AM, ewsieg said:

I would be very interested in knowing how this deal compares to the one Boris Johnson squashed at the behest of all western governments.  

I am not saying I trust Trump and/or Putin, but I don't think Putin completely trusts Trump either.  I very well could see Trump telling Putin to accept some deal and if Putin doesn't, Trump flipping his script immediately and fully backing Ukraine too.  Putin is a smart man, but smart doesn't always beat crazy.

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I agree with this in bold. Trump might be in the Russians’ pocket, but that doesn’t mean he can’t crawl out and go rogue on them.

As for Trump backing Ukraine against Putin, I don’t see the there there for him to do that. Ukraine means nothing to him, except as a tool to potentially negotiate better terms of appeasement to the Russians, and even that might not be enough to move Putin off his mark and Trump out of his pocket.

Oh, man, I am so going to death camp for posts like this.

[HighOPS]

  On 12/1/2024 at 3:27 PM, chasfh said:

I agree with this in bold. Trump might be in the Russians’ pocket, but that doesn’t mean he can’t crawl out and go rogue on them.

As for Trump backing Ukraine against Putin, I don’t see the there there for him to do that. Ukraine means nothing to him, except as a tool to potentially negotiate better terms of appeasement to the Russians, and even that might not be enough to move Putin off his mark and Trump out of his pocket.

Oh, man, I am so going to death camp for posts like this.

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The DiSS will surely be interested. (we use department more than ministry so stasi doesn't really work. Plus, we can say you were DiSSed by Kash).

Edited December 1, 2024 by HighOPS
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[Hongbit]

Trump is not in anyone’s pocket anymore.  He can literally get away with anything at this point.  

Russia could put out the clearest evidence possible that they’ve compromised Trump and have been doing it for years and it won’t matter.    He will deny everything and maga will believe it and his cronies in government will support him.    

[chasfh]

  On 12/1/2024 at 4:53 PM, Hongbit said:

Trump is not in anyone’s pocket anymore.  He can literally get away with anything at this point.  

Russia could put out the clearest evidence possible that they’ve compromised Trump and have been doing it for years and it won’t matter.    He will deny everything and maga will believe it and his cronies in government will support him.    

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That's an interesting idea.

There's also the idea that Trump truly loves, respects, and looks up to Putin, because Putin has achieved power over an entire nation and everyone and everything in it in the exact way Trump dreams of, and to achieve that, he needs to stay on Putin's good side so Trump can continue to benefit from his generous counsel.

Because remember: at his core, Trump is nothing like a man of immense strength and unshakeable decisiveness who can stand astride an entire nation like a colossus, fend off all manner of challenges with his sheer innate force of will, and chart his winning course irrespective of the efforts of anyone else who supports or opposes him. At his core, Trump is an insecure little boy with extreme daddy issues who is scared to death of ultimate failure, and he needs daddy for both success and validation.

[romad1]

Putin definitely wins if Kash Patel is allowed to be FBI Director.  

[ewsieg]

  On 12/2/2024 at 11:22 AM, romad1 said:

Putin definitely wins if Kash Patel is allowed to be FBI Director.  

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Sad that I would be willing to exchange Patel for Gaetz.  If any effort will be made to stop some of Trumps appointments, this one needs the most attention.

[romad1]

  On 12/2/2024 at 1:38 PM, ewsieg said:

Sad that I would be willing to exchange Patel for Gaetz.  If any effort will be made to stop some of Trumps appointments, this one needs the most attention.

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Tulsi is the real prize Putin wants.   Patel is so loathsome to the Senate that something will slip in the wake of this one.  If its Tulsi that's really bad.

[chasfh]

Похоже вам ребята пора начинать подтягивать свой русский.

[ewsieg]

  On 12/2/2024 at 8:37 PM, romad1 said:

Tulsi is the real prize Putin wants.   Patel is so loathsome to the Senate that something will slip in the wake of this one.  If its Tulsi that's really bad.

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I still don't think Tulsi is the threat you do, she's simply a non-warhawk IMO.  

I saw a clip on Reddit "proving" Joe Rogan does nothing but dish out Russia talking points where it would show him say something, and then it would show Putin or the Russian UN ambassador saying something similar, things like:

1) This is nothing but a proxy war.   Ummm, that's exactly what it is.  Boris Johnson even came out a day or two ago complaining about how can we fight a proxy war if we don't arm the proxy.  

2) That this could start WWIII.  Biden's own administration said they had intelligence saying it was roughly a 50/50 chance Putin would use tactical nukes in Ukraine.  Definitely would have pushed us closer if that had happened.  

I'm not saying warhawks shouldn't have a seat at the table either, but with the last 20+ years of the Middle East and how that's worked out for us, maybe it shows that you shouldn't have a warhawk only mentality to be allowed to sit at the table.

[romad1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 6:12 PM, ewsieg said:

I still don't think Tulsi is the threat you do, she's simply a non-warhawk IMO.  

I saw a clip on Reddit "proving" Joe Rogan does nothing but dish out Russia talking points where it would show him say something, and then it would show Putin or the Russian UN ambassador saying something similar, things like:

1) This is nothing but a proxy war.   Ummm, that's exactly what it is.  Boris Johnson even came out a day or two ago complaining about how can we fight a proxy war if we don't arm the proxy.  

2) That this could start WWIII.  Biden's own administration said they had intelligence saying it was roughly a 50/50 chance Putin would use tactical nukes in Ukraine.  Definitely would have pushed us closer if that had happened.  

I'm not saying warhawks shouldn't have a seat at the table either, but with the last 20+ years of the Middle East and how that's worked out for us, maybe it shows that you shouldn't have a warhawk only mentality to be allowed to sit at the table.

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Russian assets should not be the DNI.  Do you have a rebuttal for that?