Where Do Things End With Vlad? (h/t romad1)

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:25 PM, romad1 said:

Russian assets should not be the DNI.  Do you have a rebuttal for that?

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She is not a russian asset, lol. January 20th can't get here soon enough.

[CMRivdogs]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:32 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

She is not a russian asset, lol. January 20th can't get here soon enough.

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Prove it. Show your work

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:33 PM, CMRivdogs said:

Prove it. Show your work

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How about we let our own creddentialed public servant @romad1 lay out the evidence? He has been a treasure trove of "insider" info. He proved Trump set up his own assassination attempt as well as predicted RW violence leading up to the election. This should be an easy one for him to lay it all out for us, don't you think?

Edited December 3, 2024 by Tigeraholic1

[CMRivdogs]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:41 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

How about we let our own creddentialed public servant @romad1 lay out the evidence? He has been a treasure trove of "insider" info. He proved Trump set up his own assassination attempt as well as predicted RW violence leading up to the election. This should be an easy one for him to lay it all out for us, 

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Edited December 3, 2024 by CMRivdogs
EDT, for the sake of sanity.

[romad1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:44 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I want YOU to do it. You won't because you are incapable of making any convincing argument whatsoever. All you do is shove bull****

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Real patriots want America to be more like Russia and Syria.

[CMRivdogs]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:49 PM, romad1 said:

Real patriots want America to be more like Russia and Syria.

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I deleted the post. My patriotism got the best of me. I'm done dealing with that jerk

[romad1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:54 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I deleted the post. My patriotism got the best of me. I'm done dealing with that jerk

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He’s not worth it

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:49 PM, romad1 said:

Real patriots want America to be more like Russia and Syria.

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crickets...........

[Screwball]

If Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset, how could she still be a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve? Shouldn't she be in jail and charged with treason? Nobody can do anything about this?

[pfife]

No thats not a crime of treason.

[romad1]

  On 12/4/2024 at 1:21 AM, pfife said:

No thats not a crime of treason.

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I'd be happy to subject her to a full field investigation but they would never let her sit through that. 

[romad1]

Oh look...

https://www.semafor.com/article/12/03/2024/despite-agreement-trump-nominees-may-seek-to-avoid-fbi-background-checks

[ewsieg]

  On 12/3/2024 at 9:49 PM, romad1 said:

Real patriots want America to be more like Russia and Syria.

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She's a sympathizer, which actually falls in line with the base of the Democratic party.  I tend not to side with her on foreign policy but she is no different that many democratic congressmen/women.  Barbara Lee is hailed for her Iraq vote, she isn't chastised for wanting women to stay covered and in the kitchen or gays to be persecuted.

Add in the fact the FBI has been tapping her both under Trump and Biden.  If there is any actual evidence outside of the sin of saying something you don't like, the intelligence community will ensure it comes out.  The fact it didn't come out immediately when Trump mentioned the position has me guessing it's because they don't have any.

[romad1]

  On 12/4/2024 at 4:42 AM, ewsieg said:

She's a sympathizer, which actually falls in line with the base of the Democratic party.  I tend not to side with her on foreign policy but she is no different that many democratic congressmen/women.  Barbara Lee is hailed for her Iraq vote, she isn't chastised for wanting women to stay covered and in the kitchen or gays to be persecuted.

Add in the fact the FBI has been tapping her both under Trump and Biden.  If there is any actual evidence outside of the sin of saying something you don't like, the intelligence community will ensure it comes out.  The fact it didn't come out immediately when Trump mentioned the position has me guessing it's because they don't have any.

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I'm sorry, what?  You think the base of the Democratic party sympathizes with Putin and Asad?  

[chasfh]

  On 12/4/2024 at 4:42 AM, ewsieg said:

She's a sympathizer, which actually falls in line with the base of the Democratic party.

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This trolling is not as subtle as you might think.

[ewsieg]

  On 12/4/2024 at 11:15 AM, romad1 said:

I'm sorry, what?  You think the base of the Democratic party sympathizes with Putin and Asad?  

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No, they are too busy sympathizing with Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah.  That said, when X is X vs USA, the progressive base will always give X the benefit of the doubt.  

[gehringer_2]

  On 12/4/2024 at 2:15 PM, ewsieg said:

No, they are too busy sympathizing with Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah.  That said, when X is X vs USA, the progressive base will always give X the benefit of the doubt.  

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Of course this is an overstatement, but there is an interesting tension dynamic going on inside liberalism.

American Jews have generally comprised a chunk of liberal leadership, and have been in the vanguard of previous progressive movements, but the recent turn of a section of the progressive movement to victimology has been leveraged by the Arab American community to take the movement into anti-semitism, and interestingly, the old guard leadership is now pushing back. We have old traditional Jewish liberal regents at UM, people that would in the past have been considered progressives, pushing the 'U' back toward the mainstream, and the 20% of the faculty that comprise this new style victimology wing are screaming bloody murder.

[chasfh]

  On 12/4/2024 at 2:15 PM, ewsieg said:

No, they are too busy sympathizing with Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah.  That said, when X is X vs USA, the progressive base will always give X the benefit of the doubt.  

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****ing nonsense.

[Tigerbomb13]

  On 12/4/2024 at 2:15 PM, ewsieg said:

No, they are too busy sympathizing with Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah.  That said, when X is X vs USA, the progressive base will always give X the benefit of the doubt.  

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wtf?

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 12/4/2024 at 2:15 PM, ewsieg said:

No, they are too busy sympathizing with Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah.  That said, when X is X vs USA, the progressive base will always give X the benefit of the doubt.  

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Yes sir.

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 12/4/2024 at 2:34 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Of course this is an overstatement, but there is an interesting tension dynamic going on inside liberalism.

American Jews have generally comprised a chunk of liberal leadership, and have been in the vanguard of previous progressive movements, but the recent turn of a section of the progressive movement to victimology has been leveraged by the Arab American community to take the movement into anti-semitism, and interestingly, the old guard leadership is now pushing back. We have old traditional Jewish liberal regents at UM, people that would in the past have been considered progressives, pushing the 'U' back toward the mainstream, and the 20% of the faculty that comprise this new style victimology wing are screaming bloody murder.

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Well said G Jews and Arabs voted for Trump in droves this cycle. The left has a giant tent with tons of room for a reason.

[ewsieg]

Trust me, I'm not on Tigerholics side here and obviously my statements are absolute, which generally means they are not accurate as a more nuanced take is generally always more correct, but the fact that most of you reacted with absolute shock to my comment versus admitting there is some truth in what I said but pointing out the nuance to defend your point......it's part of the reason why Trump won. 

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 12/4/2024 at 1:04 AM, Screwball said:

If Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset, how could she still be a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve? Shouldn't she be in jail and charged with treason? Nobody can do anything about this?

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See, no one could answer this with a straight face. The media machine tells them it must be true so the buy it, no questions asks.

[CMRivdogs]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-kremlin-celebrates-trumps-cabinet-picks-like-kash-patel/
 

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The incoming Trump administration fills Russian state TV propagandists with glee. In mid-November, when president-elect Donald Trump started to announce his future appointees, state TV host Olga Skabeeva gushed, “All of them are totally wonderful!”

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Evgeny Popov, Skabeeva’s husband and the co-host of Russia’s 60 Minutes, concurred, describing Trump’s picks as his “radical dream team” and gleefully noting, “All of them personally despise Zelensky.” He cautiously added, “They aren’t friends of Russia, except for Tulsi Gabbard.”

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For years, Gabbard’s propensity for spouting talking points that neatly aligned with the Kremlin’s agenda was seen as a boon for Moscow, with state TV host Vladimir Solovyov referring to the former congresswoman as “our girlfriend” and agreeing with pundits who described her as “Putin’s agent.”

Her planned appointment is not the only one that is being celebrated in Russia. Putin’s mouthpieces are even more excited about Trump’s choice of an FBI director—Kash Patel.

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Even Russian State TV admits Gabbard is an asset

Edited December 4, 2024 by CMRivdogs

[pfife]

  On 12/4/2024 at 4:35 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

See, no one could answer this with a straight face. The media machine tells them it must be true so the buy it, no questions asks.

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Just makin up stuff again

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