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Where Do Things End With Vlad? (h/t romad1)


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1 hour ago, romad1 said:

Americans can look forward to 60 years of stories about being "surrender monkeys" and France can look forward to 60 years of stories about being good allies.

A lot of us feel like this guy did in 1940 when we see the Russians driving our foreign policy. 

File:Weeping Parisian from NARA Ww2-81.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

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This is an excellent explainer for the above "crying frenchman" story. 

The Weeping Frenchman: the Emotion of National Loss Professor Buzzkill

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As I said at the end of the previous episode where I talked about preserving the “Republic” part of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” The only way that can be done is by insisting that our Republic not be forgotten, and by never letting any force try to extinguish it. So let me end this episode by asking you to do one thing. Go watch the famous scene in the Hollywood classic, “Casablanca,” when the German soldiers are at a corner table, drunkenly singing one of their triumphal songs in Rick’s Cafe. You’ll remember that the true hero of that film, Victor Lazlo, outraged at this Nazi bombast, goes over to the bandstand and insists that the Rick’s Cafe’s house band play “La Marseillaise.” Remember what he says – “play La Marseillaise.” And when they hesitate, he insists, “play it!” They play it, the French people in the cafe are moved, start singing quietly, and then build up to sing it loudly and forcefully. Eventually, the singing Nazis are drowned out and have to sit down. 

And Americans right now must take every opportunity we have to do exactly that — speak loudly and forcefully that our Republic must never be overrun by barbarians.

Talk to you next time.

My god does this kill me...

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, romad1 said:

 

This ****...what a maggot way to treat friends. 

Noting that my Toronto-based VPN is showing me all the youtube ads for the Canadian elections.  The ads are all about how this politician or that politician is weaker on Trump than the person who bought the ad.   This has a dynamic all its own.   I think 4 eyes might be what happens but the US might be the one that isn't included. 

Posted
2 hours ago, romad1 said:

The latter point more important than the former.  Happy for all the people who will survive this. 

 

Russia is going to know whatever intelligence is being shared even before Ukraine knows.

Posted

If Trump really wants to pull a power-play on Putin he'll need to declare a "no-fly" zone west of the Dnieper, put in American Air Defenses and forces to protect the no-fly, and demand European troops in the same vicinity to assist with the "no-fly".

At that point, Trump can call the war "frozen", and order Putin to "back the **** off or you face ALL of us."

Just my 2 cents.

Of course, I would put NATO troops in Moldova and southern Ukraine (south of Odessa) and order Putin to "Get your Russian soldiers out of Moldova as part of this deal." He'll whine (Putin) that "Russian-speakers in Transdniestria are threatened by the Moldovans" but that's complete horse****.

Putin could come out of this VERY VERY unhappy, and with his balls completely cut off...

If only someone had the leadership qualities to stand up to him.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

If Trump really wants to pull a power-play on Putin he'll need to declare a "no-fly" zone west of the Dnieper, put in American Air Defenses and forces to protect the no-fly, and demand European troops in the same vicinity to assist with the "no-fly".

At that point, Trump can call the war "frozen", and order Putin to "back the **** off or you face ALL of us."

Just my 2 cents.

Of course, I would put NATO troops in Moldova and southern Ukraine (south of Odessa) and order Putin to "Get your Russian soldiers out of Moldova as part of this deal." He'll whine (Putin) that "Russian-speakers in Transdniestria are threatened by the Moldovans" but that's complete horse****.

Putin could come out of this VERY VERY unhappy, and with his balls completely cut off...

If only someone had the leadership qualities to stand up to him.

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Biden should have done some of those things of course. He was trying to keep things from escalating but now...we are in different territory entirely.

Posted
15 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Biden should have done some of those things of course. He was trying to keep things from escalating but now...we are in different territory entirely.

I said the exact same thing under Biden.

My one complaint with Biden was he wasn't forceful enough.

That covers a LOT of policy areas.

In particular (from my interests...) a lack of support for Ukraine. Not that he didn't support them. But too little. Too late. Too much dawdling and acting scared of Putin when the only thing Putin respects is strength. Trump keeps talking about "strength"... but I don't see strength from him. Just a stream of stupidity. And stupidity does not equate strength.

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I've been trying to game play this out and see no real solution. Here's the scenario:

We know Trump has ordered invasion plans drawn up for Panama to take the Canal. The next target is whom? Greenland? Would NATO Step in to stop him?

Then there's Canada. If Trump tries to take any part along the US Boarder, what is stopping Putin from deciding he wants to take Alaska back and add the NW Territory to his conquests?

Is Trump actually so naive to believe Putin is actually an allie and treat him fairly...

Way too much time on my hands. The whole idea is a lose, lose, lose.

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To quote a bystander in the movie Team America: World Police when the Panama Canal was hit by the terrorists (sorry, spoiler) and it sent water flooding everywhere "No Me Gusto"

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