pfife Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 5:22 PM, Netnerd said: I’m not twisting your words. You stated a principle by which you claim to abide. Expand Yep... now he conveniently forgets it. Typical trumper. Quote
pfife Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 6:49 PM, Archie said: Zimmerman was prosecuted so there was a trial where evidence and facts were presented. Nice try twisting crap to fit your line but better luck next time. Expand You stated the principle well before you crapped the bed in the Zimmerman discussion Quote
1984Echoes Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 4:46 PM, Archie said: ... It doesn't change the fact that Biden is extremely weak and Putin takes advantage of that... Expand Is that why Putin is shitting his pants right now? Quote
mtutiger Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 4:53 PM, gehringer_2 said: correct data, but that isn't the spin I would give it. It's standard Russian operation procedure to try to beat a civilian population into submission when the probability of winning on the battlefield starts to waver. And Putin is more than glad to go that route because we have to remember that he draws his understanding of state morality in a straight line from Genghis Khan. All decisions have complex antecedents, but I would guess this fact figures higher in Putin's decisions right now that whatever he is thinking about the US. It can also be read as sign of relative desperation because the last thing his generals want is to give the West a real world look at his best/most secret capabilities. Expand No shit. The Russian way of war existed long before Biden was even born, let alone became President. Quote
1984Echoes Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:06 PM, mtutiger said: Sound familiar, folks? Expand What is it with all these Putinesque boot lickers? Even America is sick with hundreds to thousands of boot-licking Putinites. WTF is wrong with you scumbag MF'ing fascist deuchebags? 1 Quote
romad1 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 4:58 AM, ewsieg said: interesting thread Expand Amateurs worry about tactics, professionals worry about logistics. That's a maxim that has a lot of sources and its the US military's secret sauce. 1 Quote
pfife Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 1:22 AM, romad1 said: Expand prolly call generals mills and motors soon too Quote
romad1 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 3:21 PM, pfife said: prolly call generals mills and motors soon too Expand They don't have to call Doug Macgregor, he's fully on the team. Quote
romad1 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 4:15 PM, Tigeraholic1 said: No clue if this has any legs but… Expand it’s a cui bono situation. It helps Ukraine to put that out there. I doubt the KGB trained albeit paranoid Putin would fall for that. Quote
romad1 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 4:22 PM, romad1 said: it’s a cui bono situation. It helps Ukraine to put that out there. I doubt the KGB trained albeit paranoid Putin would fall for that. Expand It might help temper future support for Ukraine if Western leaders are worried about offending the future coup plotters 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 4:46 PM, Archie said: It doesn't change the fact that Biden is extremely weak and Putin takes advantage of that. Expand Why do you keep saying that Biden is weak with respect to foreign policy? Do you have something to back it up or is it just a MAGA talking point? Quote
romad1 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 6:07 PM, Tiger337 said: Why do you keep saying that Biden is weak with respect to foreign policy? Do you have something to back it up or is it just a MAGA talking point? Expand He’s not publicly praising Putin therefore he’s weak? Quote
Hongbit Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 4:15 PM, Tigeraholic1 said: No clue if this has any legs but… Expand This was the one hopeful solution to stop Putin that I had mentioned at the start. Hopefully it has some legs. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Somebody's short memory forgets Trump at Helsinki when he walked out with Putin looking a lot like an abused spouse. When Trump was around Putin he rolled on his back like a puppy looking for belly rubs and got his ass kicked. Trump would have remained neutral on Ukraine until he got a few favors, and then would have undermined NATO. At the very least he'd be doing what we're seeing from Isreal. Edited March 20, 2022 by CMRivdogs 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) On 3/20/2022 at 6:07 PM, Tiger337 said: Why do you keep saying that Biden is weak with respect to foreign policy? Do you have something to back it up or is it just a MAGA talking point? Expand It's a general statement, not meant to be backed by evidence, that encapsulates how difficult it is to hit Biden on this when what the administration is doing (ie. Supplying weapons to Ukraine while staying out of the war) is where 80+% of the population is on this question. That's the frustrating thing to me... I will say that criticisms about, say, not providing MiGs seem fair to me. Even if one disagrees or thinks that it risks a wider conflict. Just saying "Biden is weak because, of course, Biden is weak" is... a pretty weak argument. Edited March 20, 2022 by mtutiger Quote
romad1 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 9:19 PM, mtutiger said: It's a general statement, not meant to be backed by evidence, that encapsulates how difficult it is to hit Biden on this when what the administration is doing (ie. Supplying weapons to Ukraine while staying out of the war) is where 80+% of the population is on this question. That's the frustrating thing to me... I will say that criticisms about, say, not providing MiGs seem fair to me. Even if one disagrees or thinks that it risks a wider conflict. Just saying "Biden is weak because, of course, Biden is weak" is... a pretty weak argument. Expand It isn’t an argument it’s wish casting 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 6:07 PM, Tiger337 said: Why do you keep saying that Biden is weak with respect to foreign policy? Do you have something to back it up or is it just a MAGA talking point? Expand The Trumpservative bubble he lives in tells him so. Quote
romad1 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Gott in himmell. If you watched the Helsinki press conference, Impeachment 1 and Trump's "Peacekeeper" comments and think Trump would have played this better. You are beyond saving. 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Nothing says "liberation" like veiled threats of military tribunals for anyone who doesn't evacuate Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 I also think that MAGAs believe that Trump would have threatened Putin with nukes and Putin would have backed down like a scared puppy as if this is some kind of TV show. Trump would not have courage to seriously confront him like that and Putin isn't scared of him anyway. Probably, the reverse is true. Quote
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