oblong Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, romad1 said: What annoys me most about his music is the corporately social acceptability of it. Rock music which was born of rebellion used to create fascistic anthems. Then again, art can be whatever art wants to be. Its all about creating reaction. In fine art its designed to get rich people to think they are significant and in pop art its all about getting poor people to feel a little bit of anything that will get them to distribute their limited wealth on a mass scale. yeah Bon Jovi very soon entered into the safe space of music. They were probably the forbearers of teh bands you'd hear on the Sirius channel Pop Rocks that my wife listens to.... the Maroon 5's of the world. Their early stuff had the offensive sex and girls element to be offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, oblong said: yeah Bon Jovi very soon entered into the safe space of music. They were probably the forbearers of teh bands you'd hear on the Sirius channel Pop Rocks that my wife listens to.... the Maroon 5's of the world. Their early stuff had the offensive sex and girls element to be offensive. A lot of good bands discarded the art for the money. When that happens, that's fine, there's other music I like better elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 BTW, the lesson of this. If your kid is in the fine arts in any variety, they had better be able to talk to rich people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 wow I think I believe these numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 All for one evil man's vanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Bon Jovi bores me to tears, I hate them. I think we might be really polar opposites in terms of tunes. Livin' on a Prayer is a top 5 tune for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: What annoys me most about his music is the corporately social acceptability of it. Rock music which was born of rebellion used to create fascistic anthems. Then again, art can be whatever art wants to be. Its all about creating reaction. In fine art its designed to get rich people to think they are significant and in pop art its all about getting poor people to feel a little bit of anything that will get them to distribute their limited wealth on a mass scale. For the longest time it felt to me that the only dude with any fame that was acting not corporately socially acceptable was Kanye. I loved him for it. Now..... yeah he's crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1984Echoes Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 54 minutes ago, romad1 said: wow I think I believe these numbers. This isn't difficult at all. 10K dead, at least (probably more) 15-20K at least, wounded or incapacitated 5K plus? Surrendered. This is the biggest unknown as I haven't seen any documented numbers here. Just stories. But that's a 30K starting point, with a high degree likelihood of larger numbers... out of 150-190K that entered Ukraine (I don't know if the actual entered-combat number has been verified?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Russian invasion forces Officially declared War Criminals by Biden/ U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Russian invasion forces Officially declared War Criminals by Biden/ U.S. While this may seem like a formality (we all know this is happening), it also feels like a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 It is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 More US troops to Eastern Europe. All to the good. The more people from the urban badlands and rural hollers get to see a different culture and understand the importance of collective security the better. Better for both societies here and abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, pfife said: I think we might be really polar opposites in terms of tunes. Livin' on a Prayer is a top 5 tune for me. Ooh ooh ooh—let me guess the other four! Don’t Stop Believin’ Bohemian Rhapsody Heart of Rock and Roll We Built this City How close am I? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Ooh ooh ooh—let me guess the other four! Don’t Stop Believin’ Bohemian Rhapsody Heart of Rock and Roll We Built this City How close am I? 😉 not very Baba O'Rielly and Sweet Child o' Mine are 2 more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 45 minutes ago, romad1 said: More US troops to Eastern Europe. All to the good. The more people from the urban badlands and rural hollers get to see a different culture and understand the importance of collective security the better. Better for both societies here and abroad. I think the Rural Hollers already get it, they own 75% of firearms in U.S. I would imagine...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I think the Rural Hollers already get it, they own 75% of firearms in U.S. I would imagine...... Hypothesis: the end of the Cold War deployments to places like Germany was bad for our civics. When the people on the lower-end of the economic spectrum did not have the outlet of seeing other successful societies they turned inward and weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, romad1 said: Hypothesis: the end of the Cold War deployments to places like Germany was bad for our civics. When the people on the lower-end of the economic spectrum did not have the outlet of seeing other successful societies they turned inward and weird. Like maybe hanging around German Skin heads weird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Tigeraholic1 said: Like maybe hanging around German Skin heads weird? German skinheads were never a real thing when I was there. The issue was the Red Army Faction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 The other story about the Russian general talking to the US delegation in Moscow appears to be revealing of dangerously bad morale in the Russian military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, pfife said: not very Baba O'Rielly and Sweet Child o' Mine are 2 more I flipped a coin between “Sweet Child o’ Mine” and “We Built This City” … 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, chasfh said: I flipped a coin between “Sweet Child o’ Mine” and “We Built This City” … 😅 Too hard to think about top 5 lists. I used to think "Everyday I write the Book" was the perfect pop song and then I just got sick of Elvis Costello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 This video is great. I love how he bolts to screen right to get his first post-news hit drink as it ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I find the reports about Russian troops suffering exposure/frostbite curious. Do you suppose they were ordered by the brass not to run their vehicles to keep warm to conserve fuel, or had already run out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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