Jim Cowan Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I know people like that, as old as Panetta or older, who make insanely prejudicial blanket statements about ethic groups. Here is the best one so far: "the Finns are very clean". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, chasfh said: Disagree. If he knows he's a goner, a dead duck, I think he pushes the button on the way out. We've had this debate before, but I don't think Trump is smart enough for that level of psychopathy. The danger with him is that he might be too stupid to understand the consequences of his actions. I sometimes think he doesn't distinguish between fantasy and reality. Edited March 28, 2022 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: We've had this debate before, but I don't think Trump is smart enough for that level of psychopathy. I think attempting to push the button to destroy the world simply because if he can't win, then nobody wins, is the opposite of smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Vladdie likes to remove people that he doesn’t like: a policy of people change Edited March 28, 2022 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, chasfh said: I think attempting to push the button to destroy the world simply because if he can't win, then nobody wins, is the opposite of smart. No, I mean most psychopaths are usually very smart in a twisted sort of way. They are typically sly and intelligent to the point where nobody would guess what's on their mind. I don't think Trump would be smart enough to ever reach the point you posed in your scenario. He can only fantasize about such things. So, I guess it's hard for me to imagine what he'd do in that situation. Edited March 28, 2022 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 actually, sanctuary for Putin is somewhere the Chinese might be able to make themselves useful. It seems doubtful Putin would go, but that's probably based more on the image he projects for himself than his reality. In the end most of these guys don't actually have the personal courage to stand their ground till death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: No, I mean most psychopaths are usually very smart in a twisted sort of way. They are typically sly and intelligent to the point where nobody would guess what's on their mind. I don't think Trump would be smart enough to ever reach the point you posed in your scenario. He can only fantasize about such things. So, I guess it's hard for me to imagine what he'd do in that situation. I suppose the flip side could be that if the shit comes down on him and the jig is up, he could be a sniveling fool who crawls into a fetal position in the corner and begs for his life. That probably comports with how most people view him in the end, or at least would like to. Does he think there's a ghost of a chance he could find a way out, or does he thinks there's no way out and only death awaits him? This speculation all depends, of course, on whether there is ever a jig to even be up. The more likely end for him , I think, is that he remains a free man, indeed an ex-President of the United States with all the privileges that entails, continues to build on his ill-gotten billions, and eventually dies in the technical good graces of the law and the country. I'd like to be proven wrong on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, chasfh said: I suppose the flip side could be that if the shit comes down on him and the jig is up, he could be a sniveling fool who crawls into a fetal position in the corner and begs for his life. That probably comports with how most people view him in the end, or at least would like to. Does he think there's a ghost of a chance he could find a way out, or does he thinks there's no way out and only death awaits him? This speculation all depends, of course, on whether there is ever a jig to even be up. The more likely end for him , I think, is that he remains a free man, indeed an ex-President of the United States with all the privileges that entails, continues to build on his ill-gotten billions, and eventually dies in the technical good graces of the law and the country. I'd like to be proven wrong on that. I don't think you'll be wrong on that. He won't be remembered well in history, but I don't think there will be a definitive conclusion. Edited March 28, 2022 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Vladdie likes to remove people that he doesn’t like: a policy of people change Is that THE Roman Abramovitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Umm, OK... do these guys prefer the alternative? Edited March 28, 2022 by mtutiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Is that THE Roman Abramovitch? yes, Chelsea’s former owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: That's a new one lol Panetta? Did they have to get him out of cryo-storage for the quote? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, chasfh said: Disagree. If he knows he's a goner, a dead duck, I think he pushes the button on the way out. In a fit of pique. That would be exactly like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 As I was saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Wow I am almost as tired of the journalistic obsession with this quote as I am of Will Smith. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: Umm, OK... do these guys prefer the alternative? Says the party who invaded Iraq and removed Saddam from power. Nice to see the GOP stand so fiercely against regime change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Ukraine released the names/ addresses/ phone numbers of 620 Russian spies: https://news.yahoo.com/russian-spies-unmasked-embarrassing-blow-195029554.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Ukraine released the names/ addresses/ phone numbers of 620 Russian spies: https://news.yahoo.com/russian-spies-unmasked-embarrassing-blow-195029554.html well, that's kind of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: well, that's kind of fun. That has serious laughingstock potential... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Richard Engel from NBC is reporting from Kharkiv. That tells you the city is safe. NBC report that the Russians are being pushed back and are in general retreat everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) Ukraine should demand that Russia demilitarize and pay reparations. Edited March 29, 2022 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 These are dogs that know they are beaten. DO NOT REWARD THEM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 These guys are in a strong position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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