Tigerbomb13 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: More dirty Russians They need to be booted from every international competition in everything possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 The Scott Pelley interview with Zelensky is powerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) Everything's going to plan, Putin's a strategic genius, etc. etc. Edited April 11, 2022 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Lets the purges begin, what will follow is that Russian society will slide further toward immobility and economic irrelevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Democrats need to play this shit for every ounce this election. Roll the clips over and over. Tucker. Trump. Pompeo. All of them. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Savvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 More dem ads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 She's right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Lots of folks having fun with this one. Because Vladdie can't have it both ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, romad1 said: Lots of folks having fun with this one. Because Vladdie can't have it both ways. if you need context on the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 So please point the Ukrainians towards the MIG store. I think there are two, one in Poland and one in Romania. As fast as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 so is there reason to believe Russian forces will perform better/worse in East than in the North? They will be closer to their supply lines. OTOH, many of the units have been beat up and will have had to burn through more supplies to relocate ~1500 miles. They may also have much better air support unless the West have been able to move more effective air high altitude defense systems into Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: so is there reason to believe Russian forces will perform better/worse in East than in the North? They will be closer to their supply lines. OTOH, many of the units have been beat up and will have had to burn through more supplies to relocate ~1500 miles. They may also have much better air support unless the West have been able to move more effective air high altitude defense systems into Ukraine. The latter point is relevant. The US has been flying rivet joint and awacs over Romania and Poland and the range of those systems drops after the Kyiv/Crimea line so we won't be providing such good info as we were about the location of ground and air systems. Russian troops are broken though. They plan all sorts of augmentation but their basic foundation is rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I am not sure if this has been posted but this is FIRE I Commanded U.S. Army Europe. Here's What I Saw in the Russian and Ukrainian Armies. - The Bulwark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, romad1 said: The latter point is relevant. The US has been flying rivet joint and awacs over Romania and Poland and the range of those systems drops after the Kyiv/Crimea line so we won't be providing such good info as we were about the location of ground and air systems. Russian troops are broken though. They plan all sorts of augmentation but their basic foundation is rotten. How likely is it that the augmentation strategy depends on sheer numbers, the way their Eastern Front strategy against Germany did? Might Putin be thinking, who cares if a million, two million, five million Russian soldiers die, we have plenty in reserve and we will emerge victorious through attrition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I like the correlation of military bands to what I'll call regular units. I'm a big concert band fan and and have enjoyed the transition of the U-S Military bands in recent years from primarily marches to more diverse music. It seems that the Russian military while competent in traditional ways have no clue on how to improvise. In other word all chops no soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said: I like the correlation of military bands to what I'll call regular units. I'm a big concert band fan and and have enjoyed the transition of the U-S Military bands in recent years from primarily marches to more diverse music. It seems that the Russian military while competent in traditional ways have no clue on how to improvise. In other word all chops no soul. Yeah, that was an inspired device for framing the narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, chasfh said: How likely is it that the augmentation strategy depends on sheer numbers, the way their Eastern Front strategy against Germany did? Might Putin be thinking, who cares if a million, two million, five million Russian soldiers die, we have plenty in reserve and we will emerge victorious through attrition? He may think that, and you *may* get an army to fight on that basis defending their own homes, but it will be an interesting experiment in human motivation to see if you can get one to fight that way in a foreign leadership adventure, especially in a army with little or no unit level leadership. If I had to guess, I fear it the way it will go is that Russian ground units will remain largely ineffective but Russian over the horizon firepower will continue to wreak havoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: He may think that, and you *may* get an army to fight on that basis defending their own homes, but it will be an interesting experiment in human motivation to see if you can get one to fight that way in a foreign leadership adventure, especially in a army with little or no unit level leadership. If I had to guess, I fear it the way it will go is that Russian ground units will remain largely ineffective but Russian over the horizon firepower will continue to wreak havoc. Maybe it was a mistake for Putin to allow Russians to have achieved substantial gains in real income over the past decade or so, because maybe now they feel they have more to lose. In the days of Communist serfdom and widespread privation, they had practically nothing, so they nothing to lose by going to fight a war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, chasfh said: Maybe it was a mistake for Putin to allow Russians to have achieved substantial gains in real income over the past decade or so, because maybe now they feel they have more to lose. In the days of Communist serfdom and widespread privation, they had practically nothing, so they nothing to lose by going to fight a war. fair point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 As the Russians hightail it east be sure they will be picked off one by one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Muy bueno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Anyone on board with expropriating all of Russia's foreign frozen assets (more than half of that $600 Billion in Russian owned foreign currency... plus, what else...?) and remanding all of that over to Ukraine as war reparations? Not as a negotiating tool with Russia. But a simple handover of ownership to a war crimed victim of Putin's genocidal war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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