smr-nj Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 45 minutes ago, romad1 said: This is not a well man Doesn’t look well at all. Also has a “shot full of steroids” look. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Doesn’t look well at all. Also has a “shot full of steroids” look. yeah - that's a good observation. If the silly fool was still playing at the Judo master thing into his 50's he may well have fried his back beyond repair - you've got to know when to back off certain things, and we don't need much more evidence Putin doesn't. Edited April 21, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 His shirtless on a horse days seem to be over. Did he play in the annual hockey game recently when they allow him to score like 80 goals? Quote
CMRivdogs Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: This is not a well man Quote
CMRivdogs Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 Something smells a bit rotten in Moscow... This after testing a new intercontinental weapon Quote
Motown Bombers Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: This is not a well man It looks like someone with diarrhea from IBS who cannot stand up because it will all come flowing out. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Something smells a bit rotten in Moscow... This after testing a new intercontinental weapon Two facilities in Moscow went up in flames today. Very Interesting... Quote
chasfh Posted April 22, 2022 Author Posted April 22, 2022 20 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: His shirtless on a horse days seem to be over. Did he play in the annual hockey game recently when they allow him to score like 80 goals? You’re exaggerating. It’s only 30 or 40 goals. Quote
chasfh Posted April 22, 2022 Author Posted April 22, 2022 15 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Two facilities in Moscow went up in flames today. Very Interesting... What’s the implication? Ukrainian sabotage? Internal sabotage? Putin covering tracks? Something else not leaping to mind? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, chasfh said: What’s the implication? Ukrainian sabotage? Internal sabotage? Putin covering tracks? Something else not leaping to mind? Who knows? I would guess sabotage. Something like the Al Qaeda sleeper cell model? If you step back it seems reasonable to believe there are people in Russia who hate what is happening enough to act on that hatred. Quote
chasfh Posted April 22, 2022 Author Posted April 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Who knows? I would guess sabotage. Something like the Al Qaeda sleeper cell model? If you step back it seems reasonable to believe there are people in Russia who hate what is happening enough to act on that hatred. Or it could be the result of an American cyberattack. We keep hearing news stories about how the Russians are going to cyberattack us, but of course, we never hear about American counter-efforts. It's not as though that's not even happening, right? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, chasfh said: Or it could be the result of an American cyberattack. We keep hearing news stories about how the Russians are going to cyberattack us, but of course, we never hear about American counter-efforts. It's not as though that's not even happening, right? fair point. It's not as obvious what would be subject to that kind of attack at the research institute, it's not as obvious anyway as a facility with a large hackable distributed instrument control system like a chem plant. But that is one of Russia's disadvantages in this war - There are many Ukrainians with deep personal knowledge of things within Russia that has good intelligence value so there may be a lot of non-obvious vulnerabilities the Ukrainians will be able to exploit. OTOH, Ukraine has already been hardening their assets against Russian intelligence for years. Quote
romad1 Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 best guess on the sabotage inside Russia is Ukrainian efforts. They have the least amount to lose. Also, Putin might do it to his own facilities to drum up outrage. He's done that before. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, romad1 said: best guess on the sabotage inside Russia is Ukrainian efforts. They have the least amount to lose. Also, Putin might do it to his own facilities to drum up outrage. He's done that before. he's in a funny spot. Sort of the same problem with Moskva - he'd love to use the outrage factor but it makes it hard to maintain the fiction that that this is not a serious war with serious potential consequences for Russia. My guess is sooner or later he drops any remaining pretense that Russia is winning a non-war and pivots to "we are in an existential struggle to survive" at which point it probably becomes more dangerous on all sides. Oddly enough the population probably won't even flinch at any realization they were being lied to initially - in their hearts they know they've always been lied to. Quote
1984Echoes Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 11:29 AM, smr-nj said: Doesn’t look well at all. Also has a “shot full of steroids” look. So he... Attacked Ukraine out of 'Roid Rage? Consider the possibility... Quote
1984Echoes Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 So far, Biden is getting an "A" in his handling of this war: https://www.yahoo.com/news/results-world-handling-war-ukraine-002317312.html Quote
romad1 Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: So far, Biden is getting an "A" in his handling of this war: https://www.yahoo.com/news/results-world-handling-war-ukraine-002317312.html he assembled a great team. Quote
mtutiger Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 Continued movement toward Macron... It'd be great if he managed to push or exceed 60%, which would put him close to his 2017 numbers. Quote
romad1 Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 Incredible from the perspective of 2014 or any point during the Soviet era. Quote
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