romad1 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 The German political hot house is really against cancelling Nord2 because it would be like telling Louisiana and Texas that we won't pump oil if Canada wins a gold in the Olympic hockey. Except for all the death and violence of course. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, romad1 said: The German political hot house is really against cancelling Nord2 because it would be like telling Louisiana and Texas that we won't pump oil if Canada wins a gold in the Olympic hockey. Except for all the death and violence of course. keep hearing this from everyone 2nd hand. Scholz doesn't want to put himself on record? Not the best sign. Quote
romad1 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: keep hearing this from everyone 2nd hand. Scholz doesn't want to put himself on record? Not the best sign. Blair had to swallow invading Iraq Quote
romad1 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Was hearing that some Republicans wanted to do per-invasion sanctions. I'm [shrugs] about the difference. So long as we speak with a common voice and let the bully know that he will pay a potentially regime-ending price for war with Ukraine. Now, how do you do sanctions that are dangerous to his regime? Castro never had that. Kim il Sung never had that. Edited February 9, 2022 by romad1 Quote
Hongbit Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, romad1 said: Was hearing that some Republicans wanted to do per-invasion sanctions. I'm [shrugs] about the difference. So long as we speak with a common voice and let the bully know that he will pay a potentially regime-ending price for war with Ukraine. Now, how do you do sanctions that are dangerous to his regime? Castro never had that. Kim il Sung never had that. Remember their goal isn’t to actually do anything that truly impacts Russia. The goal is to make them look tough on Russia to their constituents so they can campaign on it even though they are probably taking donations from Russian interests. Quote
romad1 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Remember their goal isn’t to actually do anything that truly impacts Russia. The goal is to make them look tough on Russia to their constituents so they can campaign on it even though they are probably taking donations from Russian interests. I'd say some of them are clear eyed about the Russian donations. Paul Ryan knew plenty about the ones who were. Quote
romad1 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 I guess he's not going to lose his yacht. Repairs are still pending. Quote
1984Echoes Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 50 minutes ago, romad1 said: I guess he's not going to lose his yacht. Repairs are still pending. Can we bomb a superyacht? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Can we bomb a superyacht? limpet mine. preferably of Iranian manufacture purchased on the black market. Edited February 10, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote
romad1 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Can we bomb a superyacht? We can do a lot. We just won't. Until he touches NATO Quote
romad1 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 I do not accuse anyone I've chatted with here of this view. Only some in other spheres. Quote
romad1 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 Russian FM Lavrov basically declared the UK FM Liz Truss to be an idiot to her face. In olden times, you'd see redcoats on the crimean peninsula over that sort of thing. Quote
romad1 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 I guess not all the Ukrainians are secret quislings Quote
gehringer_2 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, romad1 said: Russian FM Lavrov basically declared the UK FM Liz Truss to be an idiot to her face. In olden times, you'd see redcoats on the crimean peninsula over that sort of thing. Russians diplomats getting unusually nekulturney. 1 Quote
romad1 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 "Russia if your listening, I hope you have a good plumber. " Quote
1984Echoes Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, romad1 said: "Russia if your listening, I hope you have a good plumber. " As staffers kept dropping off copies of the Constitution of the United States, Trump kept flushing them down the toilet. Literally. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted February 10, 2022 Author Posted February 10, 2022 16 hours ago, Hongbit said: Remember their goal isn’t to actually do anything that truly impacts Russia. The goal is to make them look tough on Russia to their constituents so they can campaign on it even though they are probably taking donations from Russian interests. Among other things? Quote
romad1 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 I hope this is confidence and fighting spirit and not a false sense of security. Quote
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