Where Do Things End With Vlad? (h/t romad1)

[digitalpigsmuggler]

  On 6/20/2023 at 1:19 PM, pfife said:

Lol at wall street journal being british

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Was referring to sky news. Which is British, although the article I quoted is from the Australian dispatch. 

[romad1]

This is one of those massively online things

War gonzo was always quick with happy news about Ukraine losing and Putin winning. 

[romad1]

well now

Looks like Putin is getting everything he wants and more.   

[romad1]

So, now the Russians are preparing to blow the nuclear plant in order to curtail the ukrainan offensive.  Should they do this...how does the US/NATO/the civilized world react? 

[chasfh]

  On 6/20/2023 at 3:19 AM, digitalpigsmuggler said:

This is from the same people who claimed Ukraine would take Crimea back in months.

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Said who when?

[digitalpigsmuggler]

  On 6/20/2023 at 4:10 PM, chasfh said:

Said who when?

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"We know that 2023 will be the year of our victory!” - Zelensky

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukrainian-leader-vows-to-defeat-russia-on-anniversary-of-invasion/

He also made comments about vacationing the Crimea by 2024.

[pfife]

Lol

[romad1]

this is really interesting and not surprising

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In recent months, the typical Russian soldier killed in Ukraine is a 34-year-old convict recruited from prison.

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[digitalpigsmuggler]

  On 6/20/2023 at 7:53 PM, romad1 said:

this is really interesting and not surprising

 

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And the typical Ukrainian?

Not sure why you rejoice in death. 

[digitalpigsmuggler]

Casualties mount as Ukraine’s forces inch
 

But the price of progress on this road to Mariupol and elsewhere has been high, as British military intelligence confirmed in one of its recent updates.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/20/casualties-mount-as-ukraine-forces-inch-south-hamlet-by-hamlet
 

Ukraine is burning through men and material already. While claiming not to have even launched large wave assaults. 

[digitalpigsmuggler]

 

[digitalpigsmuggler]

This is winning? 

 

[digitalpigsmuggler]

Ukraine recruitment drive. warning violence.

 

[romad1]

Sounds familiar to this board

[jz68]

Someone in this thread sure wants to see Russia impose its will on other countries.  

[chasfh]

  On 6/19/2023 at 2:02 PM, chasfh said:

How close are they to gaining control of or influencing the direction of Ukraine? Is Zelenskyy himself part of it? How do they factor into the big picture of what’s happening in Ukraine? What are the numbers we’re talking about, in terms of percent of population? How close are they to exerting their overall will in the conflict from the Ukraine side? Can you bottom line that for us?

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No bottom lining forthcoming? No sweat, that’s fine.

Not directed at anyone in particular, since I’ve seen this from multiple people on this and the prior board—but any time someone replies to a request for an explanation or clarification of a bold and alarming claim with some variation of “look it up yourself”, I immediately discount that claim, if not outright reject it.

[romad1]

This is actually pretty graphic. 

This is what happens when you work for Vladdie

[jz68]

  On 6/21/2023 at 12:39 AM, romad1 said:

This is actually pretty graphic. 

This is what happens when you work for Vladdie

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That's nothing compared to some of the stuff I've seen over on Reddit.  So many videos of soldiers getting blown up by drone dropped grenades.  

[digitalpigsmuggler]

[romad1]

Goes to the article above about the number of war casualties.

[chasfh]

  On 6/21/2023 at 1:41 AM, digitalpigsmuggler said:

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Withdrawing from the world in the way this graphic suggests would be a one-way ticket to economic depression, deprivation, or worse. We need world markets to maintain what Americans view as an acceptably-minimal standard of living.

[digitalpigsmuggler]

  On 6/21/2023 at 11:22 AM, chasfh said:

Withdrawing from the world in the way this graphic suggests would be a one-way ticket to economic depression, deprivation, or worse. We need world markets to maintain what Americans view as an acceptably-minimal standard of living.

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As opposed to war mongering and creating potential for WWIII.

[romad1]

  On 6/21/2023 at 11:22 AM, chasfh said:

Withdrawing from the world in the way this graphic suggests would be a one-way ticket to economic depression, deprivation, or worse. We need world markets to maintain what Americans view as an acceptably-minimal standard of living.

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Is piggie admitting that he's Russian here? 

[chasfh]

  On 6/21/2023 at 11:54 AM, digitalpigsmuggler said:

As opposed to war mongering and creating potential for WWIII.

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Yeah, I admit there are externalities involved, but it beats war mongering, creating potential for WWIII, and having our economy go down the toilet as a result of being cut off from the western world, as are some countries I can name.

Edited June 21, 2023 by chasfh

[digitalpigsmuggler]

Pentagon admits it has no idea where U.S. weapons to Ukraine are actually going

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A report from the Department of Defense Inspector General found Pentagon employees in Poland failed to follow procedures to account for military equipment being transferred to Ukraine. In the shipments of weapons monitored by the office, Pentagon employees failed to properly track the weapons in three of five shipments.

"DoD personnel did not have the required accountability of the thousands of defense items that they received and transferred at Jasionka, [Poland]," it stated. "We observed that DoD personnel did not fully implement their standard operating procedures to account for defense items and could not confirm the quantities of defense items received against the quantity of items shipped for three of five shipments we observed."

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Now they're going to have to spend millions to track the aid down, and who knows if they'll ever find it. That aid could end up in terrorist or enemy hands, and eventually be turned on Americans,

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/06/pentagon_admits_it_has_no_idea_where_us_weapons_to_ukraine_are_actually_going.html