romad1 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 This needs to happen. The US and Germany need to announce that they support membership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 A surprise to nobody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 This seems like a big deal story today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 reports emerging that Prigozhin met with Putin 5 days after Wagner march and walked out under his own power and he certainly seems to have retained complete freedom of movement in Russia. It appears Prigozhin has some kind of leverage that we do not exactly understand yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Ukraine’s Allies Can’t Get Arms Fast Enough as Stockpiles Shrink Quote With Russia’s war in Ukraine in its eighth month, some European nations that have funneled weapons to Kyiv are running low, and it could take years for defense contractors to meet the shortfall. Kyiv’s allies have already sent in billions of dollars in arms, munitions and equipment since Russia invaded in February. That’s putting pressure on ammunition stockpiles, including 155 mm shells for artillery, some of the people said, of which the US has given Ukraine well over a million rounds since the start of the war. Ukraine’s partners may be tempted to prune back support as they worry about their own security needs, potentially creating the types of fissures Putin is seeking to exploit alongside tensions over access to energy in Europe. https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-allies-t-arms-fast-122438053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Imagine shilling for Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 55 minutes ago, romad1 said: Imagine shilling for Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) and Biden is correct because if Ukraine joins NATO the US is immediately obligated to put US troops on the ground in Ukraine and US pilots in the air face to face with the Russians and I don't think too many sane people on the planet want to see the Russian rat backed into that corner. That was avoided in Vietnam, in the Middle East (multiple times), in Afghanistan, and it will be avoided in Ukraine. Either article 5 means something or it doesn't. NATO will help Ukraine fight this war but they will not fight it for them. And that is the right policy. When the war is over, the NATO security umbrella can be extended over Ukraine then its becomes Russia's choice to precipitate a direct conflict with AFUSA. Edited July 10, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jz68 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Not saying there's any chance of it happening, because there isn't, but if Ukraine were allowed to join and NATO suddenly dropped half a million troops into the country and pointed all of their sea and air power in the direction of Russia, Putin would fold like a cheap suit and withdraw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Stoltenberg announces Turkey's agreement to approve Sweden: https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkey-agrees-advance-sweden-nato-192705941.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Ukraine orders evacuations from liberated city, as Russians creep closer again Last week, Ukrainian authorities ordered a mandatory evacuation of Kupiansk… https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/03/13/europe/kupiansk-evacuations-intl/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Erdogan got some assurances about membership in the EU i'm guessing or he's just decided that Putin's day has come and gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 and there it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 50 minutes ago, romad1 said: and there it is They promised to fast-track some EU processes. Not an iron-clad promise for entry... But enough give for in to Turkey's desires (universal visa entry, etc...) that Erdogan was comfortable with the promises. Whatever it takes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 7 hours ago, romad1 said: Imagine shilling for Putin It's like there's a one-man cheerleader squad in here for Vladimir Putin and his fascist, violent, corrupt, gangster, Anti-American, genocidal regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: It's like there's a one-man cheerleader squad in here for Vladimir Putin and his fascist, violent, corrupt, gangster, Anti-American, genocidal regime. Because it gives him more time with Trump? Or he likes Trump because he loves Putin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, romad1 said: ... Or he likes Trump because he loves Putin? The other way around: he loves Putin because Trump told MAGA to love him. He's just blindly, like a lemming, following Trump's directives. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Us cluster bombs deal is clear signal the war is not going well for Ukraine. Even within US government circles, there has been deep unease about supplying its own stockpile of cluster munitions to Ukraine. Children are overwhelming the victims. Children are overwhelming the victims. https://news.sky.com/story/amp/us-cluster-bombs-deal-is-clear-signal-that-war-is-not-going-well-for-ukraine-12917101 Edited July 11, 2023 by digitalpigsmuggler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 French joins UK in providing long range precision weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 fans of the Jeb Bush meme will enjoy this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Fun vid missed Sweden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Apparently Zelensky (not the Auto parts King) wants WWIII Zelensky slams Biden’s ‘unprecedented and absurd’ stance on NATO membership Quote Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tore into NATO leaders including President Biden on Tuesday for not extending NATO membership to his war-torn country slammed the reticence as “weakness” and “absurd” — just moments after Biden referred to the development of new non-public language under development for NATO ascension. Biden "We’re determined to commit every inch of territory that is NATO territory,” Biden noted. “If the war is going on, then we’re all in war. We’re at war with Russia, if that were the case.” https://nypost.com/2023/07/11/zelensky-slams-weakness-of-absurd-biden-stance-on-nato/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Got heem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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