romad1 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I'd guess this too. Into October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, romad1 said: I'd guess this too. Into October. They need to go as far into the winter as they can, as well... Russian logistics on Ukrainian territory is ****ed. That means their forces too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said: They need to go as far into the winter as they can, as well... Russian logistics on Ukrainian territory is ****ed. That means their forces too... Russia's big winter offensive was all about the Wagner Group. Who the hell is going to lead that now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Methinks the Russians got nothing left. I mean, that's overstating it... but, not by all that much IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Methinks the Russians got nothing left. I mean, that's overstating it... but, not by all that much IMO. Japan and Germany lost WWII in 1943. The war didn't end until 1945. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, romad1 said: That seems f’ing criminal. 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Japan and Germany lost WWII in 1943. The war didn't end until 1945. Russia ain't the Wehrmacht nor are they the Japanese Imperial Army... Not by a LONG shot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 36 minutes ago, romad1 said: He is an Agent of Russia. Providing aide to the enemy... Which means... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Seems like it's only a matter of time before I'm gone from that website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 20 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: He is an Agent of Russia. Providing aide to the enemy... Which means... He gave them Starlink, including components for it, for free. (Additional service was later paid by the coalition) I keep finding articles saying that Musk has confirmed that he turned it off, but even the sources provided only state that he refused to expand coverage into Crimea, not that he turned off anything he had already provided. https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4193788-musk-acknowledges-he-turned-off-starlink-internet-access-last-year-during-ukraine-attack-on-russia-military/ Quote “There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol,” Musk wrote on X, the platform previously known as Twitter. “The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor. If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation,” Musk wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Dang We really are in a different world than we were in before COVID. China is breaking down a lot of good will with the outside world and wondering why people are reacting the way they are reacting to them becoming a more insular, crazified country that thinks using AI and quantum computing tools against its citizens is somehow going to lead to better Communism. Russia for its part is just so broken and wistful for its glory days that its going to take a generation for it to "recover" to some form that isn't a complete pariah. --- Unless Trump wins in 2024. If he wins and appoints Ambassador Mike Flynn or Matt Gaetz then, the spigot of US tech to Russia will be unleashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 15 hours ago, pfife said: Seems like it's only a matter of time before I'm gone from that website I so want to send this to the Musk fan I know. I know the response will be heavily nuanced. I really don't want this wanna-be God Emperor to be in charge of a Mars colony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) Muskrats have spun things into Elon basically preventing WWIII by sabotaging the Ukrainian attack. Edited September 9, 2023 by MIguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Quote US likely to send long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for the first time: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-send-long-range-atacms-missiles-ukraine-time/story?id=103031722 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 So, UK has always been very forward leaning about supporting Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, romad1 said: So, UK has always been very forward leaning about supporting Ukraine. I like that they've been so proactive... It takes a small amount of heat off of the U.S. It provides a "push" to slow-moving countries (especially Germany but a bit of a push in the U.S. as well...) It shows there are other countries aside from us that can take a leadership position. And from my perspective: it's always been "give them what they want", so Ukraine should already have ATACMS as far as I'm concerned, F-16's, depleted uranium shells, etc... So keep pushing UK! Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: And from my perspective: it's always been "give them what they want" We have some spare Nukes we could give them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 4 hours ago, romad1 said: So, UK has always been very forward leaning about supporting Ukraine. the Brits are perfectly positioned for this kind of activity. It's as effective as the US doing it but with less collateral fallout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, ewsieg said: We have some spare Nukes we could give them. also - if the US commits to ATACM, that will help unlock German supply of the Taurus. Those two will help force the Russians to re-deploy more air defense resources away from the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) I'm not convinced that China won't attack Taiwan on its own schedule no matter what happens in Ukraine. That said, there is merit to this point of view. The 1960s perspective would be that not everything is Munich. The 1930s perspective would be that yes, but Munich was terrible for Czechoslovakia and Poland and everywhere else. The US genuinely is racing to match a massive arms buildup in the Western Pacific and bringing as many allies as can be gathered to the collective security structure there. Chinese weapons being sent to Russia to help them kill Ukraine seem to be happening and that sucks. An interesting potential future development would be when China decides to try out their newest weapons in Ukraine to give them real world tests. I'm sure Russia would love that. I'm sure it would have devastating effects. Edited September 12, 2023 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Well, that’s depressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 This actually surprises me Armenia was all in on their Russian bosses I thought. This apparently has the Kremlin in a boil of rage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, romad1 said: This actually surprises me Armenia was all in on their Russian bosses I thought. This apparently has the Kremlin in a boil of rage. There's no chance Armenia is working with US on this to gather intelligence and pass it on to Russia, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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