Where Do Things End With Vlad? (h/t romad1)

[Mr.TaterSalad]

36 minutes ago, romad1 said:

I have hope the EU and NATO will rally to keep Ukraine going.  They do not want Russia to capture the baltics again or threaten Poland and Romania.   My hope is very thin reed though.  Some really bad people are going to be in the administration.

One of my biggest fears is that two things happen simultaneously. One, he sells Ukraine out, stops funding them in any capacity, and allows Russia to continue to take over territory. Two, the war itself doesn't actually stop but he declares victory because he stops funding them and the American people buy his bull**** and respect him for it. So Russia is still at war with Ukraine and making further territorial gains without US support, but because so many Americans believe his lies, they actually think the war has ended because of Trump.

[romad1]

18 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

One of my biggest fears is that two things happen simultaneously. One, he sells Ukraine out, stops funding them in any capacity, and allows Russia to continue to take over territory. Two, the war itself doesn't actually stop but he declares victory because he stops funding them and the American people buy his bull**** and respect him for it. So Russia is still at war with Ukraine and making further territorial gains without US support, but because so many Americans believe his lies, they actually think the war has ended because of Trump.

Catastrophizing -- although warranted and understandable is -- something i'm trying to dial back on because its like panicking in a lifeboat situation.

[Dan Gilmore]

Maybe Biden can send a message to Putin on his way out- advanced weapons permission to blow up the Kerch bridges. 

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Trump claims he'll end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. I think we know that's BS. What will actually, likely, end up happening? Will he sell out Ukraine and demand they surrender territory to Russia? Will he stop arms sales to them and claim that as a victory? Will the war just drag on as normal and Trump will look foolish for talking about how he can end the wars in a day?

I think it just falls off the radar and nothing more comes of it on our side. Russia will pummel Ukraine’s into eventual submission half the media will completely ignore it, while the other half will be excoriated for trying to keep the “Biden crime family” propped up.

 Whenever Putin rolls into other non-Western places like Georgia or Azerbaijan or Uzbekistan, it won’t be our concern. After that it’s a short step to get the other ex-republics in the fold, especially with help from North Korean and possibly Chinese troops.

Speaking of which, when China invades Taiwan, I think the most likely outcome will be Trump will make a deal that will pay him and his actual crime family off to keep us from intervening. So, the clock is now ticking and the alarm is set for pre-2028.

 

Edited Friday at 01:52 PM by chasfh

[CMRivdogs]

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Breaking news: Elon Musk joined a Wednesday call between President-elect Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in the latest sign that the tech billionaire intends to intertwine himself with Trump’s governing apparatus.

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lahgnpwoyu2s

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Has anyone followed this story? It turns out a several right wing media influencers were on the Russian payroll. Members of Tenet Media, including Benny Johnson, Julie Chen, Lauren Southern, Dave Rubin, and Tim Pool were taking millions of dollars in sum total from individuals affiliated with Russia Today and the Russian government lead by Vladimir Putin.

JUST LOL that Rubin and Pool, the "free thinkers" and "truth tellers" of the interwebs were telling us for years how Ukraine was the real enemy and Russia was our friend. Now that they're in legal hot water the truth comes out that these clowns were paid to have an opinion and potentially directly told what to say and thing. What a bunch of Russian hacks.

Edited Saturday at 03:59 PM by Mr.TaterSalad

[Hongbit]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Has anyone followed this story? It turns out a several right wing media influencers were on the Russian payroll. Members of Tenet Media, including Benny Johnson, Julie Chen, Lauren Southern, Dave Rubin, and Tim Pool were taking millions of dollars in sum total from individuals affiliated with Russia Today and the Russian government lead by Vladimir Putin.

JUST LOL that Rubin and Pool, the "free thinkers" and "truth tellers" of the interwebs were telling us for years how Ukraine was the real enemy and Russia was our friend. Now that they're in legal hot water the truth comes out that these clowns were paid to have an opinion and potentially directly told what to say and thing. What a bunch of Russian hacks.

Nobody cares about Russia anymore, Tater.  They are pretty much our closest ally now.  

However…if it turns out any of those influencers were black women.  That could be a serious threat to our democracy.  

[chasfh]

Exactly. If Justice wants to do anything about this, they have exactly two months and ten days to implement, conduct, and conclude the case with a conviction against them, because what legal hot water could they possible be in starting January 20?