Motown Bombers Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) the BLS shorted Biden more jobs than Trump created in his entire presidency. Imagine coming here and arguing Trump was good on the economy LOL! Thanks Brandon! Edited November 17, 2021 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Conservative outlet backtracking? I kept hearing inflation was bidens fault not a global phenomenon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 9:14 PM, pfife said: the BLS shorted Biden more jobs than Trump created in his entire presidency. Imagine coming here and arguing Trump was good on the economy LOL! Thanks Brandon! I would imagine that getting those numbers right is hard, but it seems crucial to get them correct the first time given the outsized importance in media coverage labor statistics get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 17 hours ago, pfife said: Conservative outlet backtracking? I kept hearing inflation was bidens fault not a global phenomenon I really, really want some nitwit right-winger to retweet this tweet, which shows a price of "147.9" for regular unleaded at a UK gas station, as evidence that Biden is purposely allowing gas prices in the US to rise to triple that of the UK's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Thank you Brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Good work by Brandon's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Poor Kevin... even if (or when) the GOP regains the House, he'll never be voted speaker The screed tonight projects weakness big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 hours ago, pfife said: Good work by Brandon's team. But Joe Biden said in his best demented whisper voice..."It doesn't cost anything." So Biden lies to the the country and says this socialist spending spree is free but in reality adds hundreds of billions to the deficit. It doesn't sound so free to me. Somebody has to pay for it and it will be us through higher taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Archie said: But Joe Biden said in his best demented whisper voice..."It doesn't cost anything." So Biden lies to the the country and says this socialist spending spree is free but in reality adds hundreds of billions to the deficit. It doesn't sound so free to me. Somebody has to pay for it and it will be us through higher taxes. Of course you didn't read what you quoted. Which is a weird flex when you're out there calling others trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 OK so the "Make America Great Again" by the Trumpets sounds grammatically correct. "Build Back Better" makes me cringe everytime I see it. Is that just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: OK so the "Make America Great Again" by the Trumpets sounds grammatically correct. "Build Back Better" makes me cringe everytime I see it. Is that just me? It doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, but the program looks pretty solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Bill passed. BOOM. (Shaka-Lakka-Lakka) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Archie said: .... this socialist spending spree is free but in reality adds hundreds of billions to the deficit.... Are you talking about Trump's tax cuts that added $1 Trillion to the deficit EACH YEAR? Or the $8 TRILLION that TRUMP added to the deficit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, chasfh said: It doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, but the program looks pretty solid. I believe BoJo has borrowed it over in the UK as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, smr-nj said: Bill passed. BOOM. (Shaka-Lakka-Lakka) F*CK YEAH!!! Joe Manchin has a choice now as to how history will remember him, kindly or unkindly. Call Joe Manchin's DC office at 202-224-3954 and tell him that the American people support Build Back Better and the President's agenda. If you call. please be respectful to his staffers, but be stern in your support of universal pre-k, lower childcare costs, combating climate change, lowering prescription drug costs, and more. Edited November 19, 2021 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Brian_K Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 What will make this bill a winner? What would make the bill a loser? Say 10-20 years down the line. It is a pretty ambitious bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Winner column - free pre-K, reduced prescription prices (because Medicare will be able to negotiate) These are 2 that are notables. And needed. I’ll think on the negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 As young parents who are in the process of thinking about how to pay for Pre-K, that provision is a big one for us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 The negative is a another tax break for the super wealthy. But that's what government does! I think the positives substantially outweigh the negative in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 In terms of negatives, there was a philosophical debate between the moderates and progressives about doing more with sunset periods or picking a couple of things and doing them for longer periods (perhaps permanently). And BBB tends to do more of the former. I get it, but I tend to be on the "do less that can be made permanent" bandwagon versus "funding stuff for two years only to have it yanked away" train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: The negative is a another tax break for the super wealthy. But that's what government does! I think the positives substantially outweigh the negative in this case. the democrats had to get their salt deduction back in there for all their california and new york donors. its another big government spending bill that will result in those invested in the stock market making more money. And just like every big government spending bill: those already in the system will continue to be able to live off the largesse of the american taxpayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, buddha said: the democrats had to get their salt deduction back in there for all their california and new york donors. its another big government spending bill that will result in those invested in the stock market making more money. And just like every big government spending bill: those already in the system will continue to be able to live off the largesse of the american taxpayer. The Republicans spend a ton of money too and then they cut taxes, mostly for the wealthy. They both do the same thing. I prefer the stuff the Democrats spend it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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