Biden's presidency

[ewsieg]

26 minutes ago, pfife said:

If trumpers want standards now they should have them then too.   No sympathy.

As a non-trumper that would like good and transparent government with a media willing to hold elected officials accountable, I do want standards.   

[pfife]

your biden gotcha seems to have little pull in the marketplace of ideas.

[Jim Cowan]

Being hosted by a bilionaire is a really bad look.  Justin Trudeau did that once, he took his family on a vacation to a private island owned by the Aga Khan, that rarest of creatures, the "billionaire imam".  Or, if you prefer, "an imam who owns racehorses".  When questioned after the fact Trudeau described him as "an old family friend" which is BS, Trudeau had met him once as a child.  Does the Khan have business interests in Canada?  I can't think of a reason why he wouldn't.

Trudeau got some very bad press about how naive he was, to think that he could get away with something like that and not look hopelessly out of touch with the everyday life of the average citizen.

[ewsieg]

13 hours ago, pfife said:

your biden gotcha seems to have little pull in the marketplace of ideas.

To be honest, I know most of what I post will be ignored and/or a 'but Ivanka' type response will be generated.  The crazy thing is, I agree with you so much more than you realize.

The biggest difference in my opinion is your party (and you) look at things in terms of black and white, which you look at as poor vs rich and conservatives look at things in urban vs. rural, which they look at as poor vs rich.  

IMO, poor urban and poor rural teaming up would be much more beneficial than anything we've ever seen.  

[pfife]

6 hours ago, ewsieg said:

To be honest, I know most of what I post will be ignored and/or a 'but Ivanka' type response will be generated.  The crazy thing is, I agree with you so much more than you realize.

The biggest difference in my opinion is your party (and you) look at things in terms of black and white, which you look at as poor vs rich and conservatives look at things in urban vs. rural, which they look at as poor vs rich.  

IMO, poor urban and poor rural teaming up would be much more beneficial than anything we've ever seen.  

I noticed that while you hunted and pecked this out the free market continued to completely ignore your latest biden gotcha.   bootstraps/etc etc 

Edited December 1, 2021 by pfife

[1776]

On 11/28/2021 at 9:57 PM, pfife said:

we should vote for the party that gave us the deadliest year on record and worst job losses since hoover last time they were in power?!?  Personally I prefer the less deaths/more jobs approach ymmv

If I am understanding your comments, 2021 deaths have exceeded the 2020 death count and the numbers are still climbing, unfortunately.

[pfife]

52 minutes ago, 1776 said:

If I am understanding your comments, 2021 deaths have exceeded the 2020 death count and the numbers are still climbing, unfortunately.

yes covid deaths have, but 2020 was total deaths

[Mr.TaterSalad]

BRANDON FOR THE WIN AGAIN! Are you tired of all this winning yet?

[Cartman]

#Bideninflation

Annual inflation rises to 6.8 percent, the highest rate since 1982

[chasfh]

Biden’s not behind the rise in inflation and he’s not at fault for it, but I agree he’s gonna pay for it.

[oblong]

it's really not complicated why we have inflation and I don't see how you can blame a politician for it or what you can do to solve it other than take money away.   People have built up cash reserves from not doing anything for almost 2 years.  Many were given stimulus money that didn't need it and it's sitting in savings accounts and being used on things like vacations and home improvments, etc.  Things that were put off in 2020 are now being done in 2021 and they've got 2 years of savings plus stimulus money to do it.  Also employment is at low levels so more people are working and more are spending.  

What exactly are the critics suggesting be done?  Millions of people are making independent decisions to spend money they've saved up.  That's why we have inflation.  Should we pass a law that you can't buy anything?

[CMRivdogs]

6.8% inflation. We’ve been spoiled as citizens. I’m old enough to remember much higher rates and mortgage interest at 18%
 

I also remember WIP buttons from a beloved Republican Administration 

[Tigeraholic1]

9 minutes ago, oblong said:

it's really not complicated why we have inflation and I don't see how you can blame a politician for it or what you can do to solve it other than take money away.   People have built up cash reserves from not doing anything for almost 2 years.  Many were given stimulus money that didn't need it and it's sitting in savings accounts and being used on things like vacations and home improvments, etc.  Things that were put off in 2020 are now being done in 2021 and they've got 2 years of savings plus stimulus money to do it.  Also employment is at low levels so more people are working and more are spending.  

What exactly are the critics suggesting be done?  Millions of people are making independent decisions to spend money they've saved up.  That's why we have inflation.  Should we pass a law that you can't buy anything?

Thats a pretty elitist take. I know a number of families struggling to buy their kids Christmas presents and pay bills this month. 

[oblong]

13 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Thats a pretty elitist take. I know a number of families struggling to buy their kids Christmas presents and pay bills this month. 

what's elitist about it?  I know a lot of people who aren't.  What do you suggest we do to stop inflation?  Nobody sat down in a board room and said "We need inflation, make it happen".  It's the result of supply and demand.

If I mentioned I went out to a nice dinner is it elitist because others can't?

 

 

[Motown Bombers]

Inflation is happening globally and not just in the US. 

[chasfh]

32 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Inflation is happening globally and not just in the US. 

Which proves that Biden is dangerous to the entire world and not just 'Murica? 😛

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

what's elitist about it?  I know a lot of people who aren't.  What do you suggest we do to stop inflation?  Nobody sat down in a board room and said "We need inflation, make it happen".  It's the result of supply and demand.

If I mentioned I went out to a nice dinner is it elitist because others can't?

 

 

You say Americans are flush with cash and that is simply not true. 

[Tiger337]

I think presidents have very little impact on inflation or the economy in general.  They get way too much credit and way too much blame. They are kind of like baseball managers that way.  

Edited December 10, 2021 by Tiger337

[oblong]

23 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You say Americans are flush with cash and that is simply not true. 

wrong.

Many people were able to save up a lot of money by working from home and forgoing vacations and other things in 2020 in addition to 3 rounds of stimulus money.....   They've been spending that money on goods and services over the last year.  That's what causes inflation.  If that were not happening we wouldn't have inflation.  

The fact you ay that's not true is very mind boggling.

Just because not everyone if flush with cash doesn't mean nobody is.

 

 

 

[Tigeraholic1]

4 minutes ago, oblong said:

wrong.

Many people were able to save up a lot of money by working from home and forgoing vacations and other things in 2020 in addition to 3 rounds of stimulus money.....   They've been spending that money on goods and services over the last year.  That's what causes inflation.  If that were not happening we wouldn't have inflation.  

The fact you ay that's not true is very mind boggling.

Just because not everyone if flush with cash doesn't mean nobody is.

 

 

 

You have a small scope of the country. I won't waste my time trying to break it down for you. From what I gather you are college educated working from home going 18 plus months, dual income and even have a gym membership. This is a very small percentage of the general public. 

Like you say let everyone eat cake!

[oblong]

22 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You have a small scope of the country. I won't waste my time trying to break it down for you. From what I gather you are college educated working from home going 18 plus months, dual income and even have a gym membership. This is a very small percentage of the general public. 

Like you say let everyone eat cake!

You have issues my friend.  

What do you think is causing inflation if not increased spending?

Are you saying there are not people with more cash saved up than they had 2 years ago.

I'm not even sure what your point is.  I'm not going to talk about things involving numbers with someone who thinks 17% (college educated dual income)  is 'very small'.  I'm not dual income though, I'm 1.5 income by the way.

But rest assured... nobody's spending money because everybody's broke... that inflation is just out there happening on it's own.  All of those contractors who are booked out 6 months are making it all up... nobody's getting windows or gutters or whatever...

 

[buddha]

On 11/30/2021 at 11:39 AM, Jim Cowan said:

Being hosted by a bilionaire is a really bad look.  Justin Trudeau did that once, he took his family on a vacation to a private island owned by the Aga Khan, that rarest of creatures, the "billionaire imam".  Or, if you prefer, "an imam who owns racehorses".  When questioned after the fact Trudeau described him as "an old family friend" which is BS, Trudeau had met him once as a child.  Does the Khan have business interests in Canada?  I can't think of a reason why he wouldn't.

Trudeau got some very bad press about how naive he was, to think that he could get away with something like that and not look hopelessly out of touch with the everyday life of the average citizen.

what do you think of trudeau?

[Tigeraholic1]

2 minutes ago, oblong said:

You have issues my friend.  

What do you think is causing inflation if not increased spending?

 

 

let me give you an example:

Do you remember during 2020 when the government paid a  large percentage of americans to stay home? Then a large portion of them said " I won't come back to work for that pay level"? Many employers had to start paying higher wages to lower income folks to get them back into the work force right? Do employers eat that cost? No, they pass the buck to the consumer. Hmmm what happens next, cost of consumable goods goes up. So said folks who got a bump from $13 per hour to $14-15 is negated due to higher costs. It's economics 101 my friend. 

 

[Tigeraholic1]

22 minutes ago, oblong said:

 

But rest assured... nobody's spending money because everybody's broke... that inflation is just out there happening on it's own.  All of those contractors who are booked out 6 months are making it all up... nobody's getting windows or gutters or whatever...

 

This is a different issue all together. Yes there is a material shortage issue from over seas but the biggest issue is labor. Skilled labor is leaving the work force at a staggering rate. These guys 50-60 years old with 30 plus years of exp are not being back filled. There are not enough young people willing to work their way through skilled trade.  

Edited December 10, 2021 by Tigeraholic1

[pfife]

3 hours ago, Cartman said:

#Bideninflation

Annual inflation rises to 6.8 percent, the highest rate since 1982

honestly "bidenflation" is better.   Missed opportunity.